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1867 messages,  Last post on Nov 26, 2009 at 6:20 PM

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Re: Older cars brake failure... coincidence? [ny540i6] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 31, 2008 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: ny540i6 (Aug 31, 2008 3:30 pm)

There is no way a person can damage a healthy brake system by slamming the pedal down at 40 mph. You should be able to do that every day 365 days a year. I mean, that's what taxi cabs do and we don't see them piled up in stacks on the sidewalk. (well, usually not... )
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Re: Older cars brake failure... coincidence? [Mr_Shiftright] by paisan
Aug 31, 2008 (8:23 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 31, 2008 4:53 pm)

Agreed. I bought a used 94 Legacy about 3 years ago with 100k miles. First day I had it I took it to the track and pushed it to triple digits and braked down to 30 or less for the turns w/o issue. It was completely stock and street driven til I picked it up.
 
So yup if the car is in good shape hard stops should be fine no matter the age or milage.
 
-mike
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Squeaking by oldfarmer50
Sep 01, 2008 (4:39 am)
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I had a number of issues with my brakes including squeaking, squealing noise under moderate brake pressure. Had the pads and rotors replaced but I still have the noise. What should I look for next?
 
BTW, I have drums on the rear which were not touched. Noise sounds like it's coming from the front.
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Re: Squeaking [oldfarmer50] by wtd44
Sep 01, 2008 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Sep 01, 2008 4:39 am)

You might try some of that brake quietening stuff. I've seen it in tubes at auto parts places. Apparently, you squeeze the product from the tube, much like squeezing a toothpaste tube. It is applied between the caliper piston and the backing pad on the disk brake pad. I don't recall the brand name!
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Re: Older cars brake failure... coincidence? [ny540i6] by bpeebles
Sep 01, 2008 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: ny540i6 (Aug 31, 2008 9:06 am)

You did not specificaly say what the "failure mode" was but I am assuming by your description that the hydrolic fluid started to leak becasue a brake-line broke open under the pressure.
 
I assume you realize that the vehicle DOES NOT have to even be moving to check the brake system for this kind of weakness. Here in Vermont, we have an annual "Vermont Safety Inspection" which includes testing such things. A thorough inspector will sit in a STATIONARY vehicle and push the brake-pedal as hard as he can. If the vehicle does not pass this simple test (A brake line gives way), It was not safe to be on the roads in the first place.
 
Another "test" they do is to use a HUGE pair of pliers to squeeze every inch of the exhaust pipes. If any section of the exhaust is weak, it will crush.... again, you fail the inspection.
 
Bottom line - You may have been driving when the failure occored... at least you were cognizant of what you were doing.
Imagine if somone was in an "emergancy stop" situation and the brakes failed in this way? You may have saved somones life.
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ABS Module Rebuild by 59er
Sep 09, 2008 (4:00 pm)
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Hi,
I had my mechanic remove my Passat ABS module for rebuild. Module Master seems to be the company most people use but BBA Reman charges less. Anyone had experience with BBA Reman or another company?
Thanks
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Brake job. by jipster
Dec 04, 2008 (8:22 am)
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Went to the dealership today for an oil change. They say my front brake pads are at 20-50% and recommend replacing. New front pads and rotor turning is $244 from dealership. Brakes are suppose to be simple jobs. Pads aren't that expensive. So, the cost seems a bit high. Any thoughts?
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Re: Brake job. [jipster] by ruking1
Dec 04, 2008 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: jipster (Dec 04, 2008 8:22 am)

You might want to inquire as to the hours and more importantly the rate you are being charged for labor. This will most likely be more than the materials. If you also want to do the research, how much they are charging you for the pads. So now you can shop the cheapest labor rate and/or/both supply the brake pads.
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Re: Brake job. [jipster] by bolivar
Dec 05, 2008 (1:43 am)
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Replying to: jipster (Dec 04, 2008 8:22 am)

50% left and you are thinking about replacing? Doesn't make sense.
 
The front pads usually wear quicker. What you might have is 50% on rear, 20% on front. You might consider replacing the front pads.
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Re: Brake job. [jipster] by bolivar
Dec 05, 2008 (1:46 am)
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Replying to: jipster (Dec 04, 2008 8:22 am)

I just read your message again. The numbers you gave pertain to the front pads.
 
The more important thing to be asking is why is one side at 50%, the other is at 20%.
 
I think there is something wrong when the pads have such uneven wear, something that should be found before just replacing pads.

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