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#272 of 331
Re: Nissan X-Trail (we're getting it.....and you're not!) [wheelz4 #267] by carson1
May 06, 2004 (4:43 pm)
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Replying to: wheelz4 (Feb 13, 2004 1:11 pm)

For info on the X-Trail, go to http://www.nissan.ca/ls/xtrail_languageSelect.html.
 
It's on sale this month in Canada. One of the features I like the most is the HUGE sun roof.
 
My husband went to a Nissan dealership on Tuesday and they had just arrived the day before there.
#274 of 331
Test drove one today by turksteritis
May 06, 2004 (6:22 pm)
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I took an x-trail on a 20 kilometer test ride today. The thing is spunky from a dead stop but starts to fade after 100 kph. It is quieter then my 03 Mazda Tribute but rides a little harsher. Fit & finish is good but interior materials are a little cheap looking. It revved at 2600 rpm at 110 kph. This was an AWD with an auto-stick. Nice ride but needs a little more hp. I guess my Tribute has spoiled me. For $29K Canadian I would buy one if I did not have to tow my 2400 lb boat or my 2 snowmobiles!
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Test drove the X-trail by levo
May 07, 2004 (3:45 am)
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We are about to buy a new vehicle and were almost sure to get a CV-V but decided to wait and try the X-trail.
 
Went last night to look and try the X-trail and have been quite impressed by the vehicle :
 
Pro X-trail :
- Very comfortable seats (my wife and myself really find the CR-V incomfortable, especially the front passenger seat and leg room (we cannot stretch our legs and I am not even 6 ft tall; dont know why the rails of the seat do not go further towards the back of the vehicle)
- better four wheel system (and you can choose on which mode you want to operate it)
- smarter tailgate opening (upwards rather than sideway towards the sidewalk where you always have to walk around to get to your vehicle)
- much more comfort and convenience in general (armrest on the manual model, opening in the back seat for skis and other long objects, neat storage, including one with 12V power for a cell phone behind the wheel drive, hot-beverage holder), 6 spearkers on the base model, etc.
- also comes with more included equipment on the XE model (remote keyless entry and lock, antitheft system, block heater, heated mirror)
 
PRO - CR-V
- reliability (our actual car is a Corolla that we kept for 12 years and 330000 km without problem)
- rear passenger leg room (children growing up!)
- more baggage space
 
Both XE four wheel X-trail and CR-V LX) are selling at the same price.
 
We test drove both of them in the same evening to make sure that we could make a good comparison and on the road itself, we could not see much difference, maybe a bit smoother ride on the X-trail..but we might have been biased by that time.
 
I guess we will have to choose between proven reliability and more fun!
#276 of 331
Re: Test drove the X-trail [levo #275] by carson1
May 07, 2004 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: levo (May 07, 2004 3:45 am)

Levo, thanks for posting. We're planning on test drving the X-Trail this weekend too. We're looking at the CRV EX (without leather) and the X-Trail SE AWD... they have roughly the same MSRP. We'd get more for our money with the X-Trail (the huge sun-roof, the heated seats, the block heater, anti-theft system, etc).
 
Don't know about the safety and reliability of the X-Trail. With the CRV, I can look up the crash tests and reliability information in Consumer Reports. I haven't really been able to find this type of information on the X-Trail.
 
One good thing is that it's not really a new vehicle because it's been on sale in other countries... if it was new, I would not be purchasing it.
#277 of 331
Re: Test drove the X-trail [levo #275] by carson1
May 08, 2004 (7:45 pm)
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Replying to: levo (May 07, 2004 3:45 am)

We went to test drive the X-Trail and the CRV again in the same afternoon. Here's my list.. comparing the 2005 X-Trail SE to the 2004 CRV EX (without leather)
 
Pro X-Trail - MSRP is $29,600
- more comfortable seats
- better AWD system
- 16 inch wheels
- comes with more standard features for the money such as the engine block heater, brake assist, sun-roof
- noticeably less road noise - more quiet ride
 
Con X-Trail
- interior has way too much plastic and looks cheap
- little storage areas everywhere, but not well thought out and some just plain silly.... e.g. a storage area above the glove compartment is really tiny and I would not use it, there's also a storage area above the stearing wheel that's petty useless
- there are 2 cupholders in the front that are ON either side of the dash - don't like this design
- there are 2 cupholders in the rear but are close to the floor; not a good design
- cargo space is not very big
- more difficulty in getting out of the back seat; not 100% sure why..if it's because the doors don't open that wide or what
 
 
Pro CRV - MSRP was $29,000 now reduced to $28,100
- more cargo space
- more legroom in the rear
- interior looks better
- can get more information regarding safey and reliability - we know it has a 5 star crash test rating and Consumer Reports recommends it
 
Con CRV
- road noise
- tailgate opens sideways
- spare tire hangs outside the vehicle
#278 of 331
X-trail vs CR-V by levo
May 09, 2004 (2:39 am)
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Thanks Carson1
 
I guess we are in a very similar situation.
 
If we choose the X-trail it is because we will accept to take some guess about reliability because we much prefer the comfort of the car.
 
You probably know this website :
www.autooninfo.info/RelPerNissanCharts.htm"
My understanding is that they simply compile results from several years of Consumer Reports Reviews. It has tons of charts. In short, Toyota and Honda are in the "Reliable Two" while Nissan is in the "Top four" (Toyota, Honda, Subaru and Nissan). The CR-V obtains very impressive ratings (the best possible quote).
 
We went back to the Honda dealer to have a closer look at the CR-V and we could probably "live" with it. I really do not understand the passenger seat. I am not that tall (5ft11.5) and my wife is 5ft10 and we cannot stretch both of our legs (there is some space towards the left to stretch the left leg but both feet do not fit in this space + seat too short + lack of back support); this might be a problem on long trips (which is a fair part of our mileage).
I also find it noisy on the road which is also important.
 
I would also miss all the little extra that I mentioned in my previous post. If I were to pay to have them on the CR-V, I would have to pay 1500-2000$ than for the X-trail (for a similar vehicle).
 
But then I feel more confident about the reliability of the CR-V and I like the extra space. I also heard that the X-trail interior scratch easily, but this is not so important for us.
 
I guess we will simply give the X-trail a second and closer look as we did for the CR-V and then decide. If we still feel that we are much more comfortable in X-trail, we will go for it. Would have liked to wait a year to hear comments from Canadian customers but this is not an option for us (I read that they had to make more than 400 modifications to adapt the vehicle to the Canadian market).
#279 of 331
Re: X-trail vs CR-V [levo #278] by carson1
May 10, 2004 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: levo (May 09, 2004 2:39 am)

Hi Levo, I see you're still undecided too. The CRV has about 3 more inches of legroom in the back so at least you can move the driver and passenger seat back to get more legroom in the front. Also, if you think you'll have adults in the backseat, you should sit back there and then try to get out... you'll notice what I'm talking about when I say that exiting from the back is not easy to get out of the back... you really have to swing your body around because the opening is small and the door seems to be in the way. The other thing you should notice in the backseat is that the actual seat itself is shorter in the X-Trail ... I noticed my legs were sticking out over the seat much more in the X-Trail.
 
I wanted to edit my last post because I missed a couple of pros and cons, but for some reason, I'm not getting that option so I'll list them here:
 
Con X-Trail
- the seats don't fold down that nicely, e.g. you have to remove the headrests and flip the top of the seat off (strange)
 
Pro X-Trail
- the salesman told me the maximum payload is 1200 lbs; I read that the maxiumum payload of the CRV is only 850 lbs
 
Pro CRV
- side airbags on the model we're looking at
 
We're going to go back and look at the X-Trail one more time. I think with us it will come down what is more important to us ...
 
1) more interior space and cargo space, proven safety & reliability of the CRV
 
versus
 
2) the nicer exterior looks (personal preference), better ride, and huge sun-room (I'm a sucker for that huge sun-roof) of the X-Trail
 
I don't think the AWD is going to play a big role in our decision; maily because we live in Toronto and we may get a maximum of 10 winter days where driving conditions are very bad, it would be driving in FWD most days. Also, the Suburu Forrester has AWD and we aren't even considering that one because it's just too small. I haven't heard any complaints about the CRV's RT AWD, it should be sufficient for us.
 
I had no idea they made so many modifications to the X-Trail for the Canadian market.. wonder what they were?
 
Let me know what you decide or if you get more information on the X-Trail. We've decided to wait until September to buy so we can see what the 2005 CRV's have to offer... although, the 2004's are already cheaper, the MSRP of the SE (w/o leather) was $29,000 and now it's on sale for $28,100... by the time September roles around, they may go down further since the 2005's are supposed to be out in August.
 
Thanks for posting that website for me, I'm going to take a look.
 
On a final note, while were in the Nissan showroom on Saturday, they sold the red, fully loaded one they had in the showroom, they put a SOLD sign on it while were were leaving!
#280 of 331
Nice to hear some feedback! by wheelz4
May 10, 2004 (9:03 am)
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I guess the X-Trails are slowly starting to filter into the dealerships. A local dealer had one a week ago or so available for test drives but it was only there one day (I guess a few dealers were sharing it). I'm anxious to check one out in person shortly, although we won't be buying anything until summer 2005. As far as reliability goes, I think the X-Trail should be fine (it has been on sale for 2 or 3 years now elsewhere) and they're made in Japan as opposed to Nissan's Smyrna plant. Mileage ratings are very nearly class-leading as well....something like 26-27 city and 35 highway. The only thing that concerns me about the above reviews is getting in and out of the back. One thing that turned us off Foresters was the fact I had to twist my feet (size 10's) sideways to get out...shoes kept getting stuck between the seat bottom and the door. Sounds like the X-Trail might be similar. The upper "glove box" on the right hand side houses a DVD player on the Japanese model....guess it's been adapted for extra storage for us. While the size/shape may not be completely practical, I'm sure it can be put to good use. Pretty hard to beat the CRV for back seat room(except maybe the Equinox) but the tiring road noise, small wheels & tires, awkward rear hatch/door/spare tire would turn me off. Styling wise, although the X-Trail is a bit conservative, I prefer it to the "too much black plastic" CRV. Like the easy to clean interior of the X-Trail as well. Anyway, we've got over a year to make up our minds, so it should be interesting. (Hope they have more/better colour choices for the X-Trail by summer 2005).
#281 of 331
X-trail shopping experience Part 1 by tanka
May 11, 2004 (10:22 pm)
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We went to test drive the X-Trail last Saturday, and then I try to offer $400 less from MSRP which include rubber floor mat ,hood deflector and 4 in 1 protection package on LE. Then sales manager return and refuse to include the protection pack and only less $100 from MSRP with rubber floor mat and hood deflector.

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