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Electronic Gremlins: Electrical Problems That Are Driving You Crazy

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Re: Oldsmobile Intrigue Electrical [angelvaugn] by kiawah
Feb 12, 2007 (3:53 pm)
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Replying to: angelvaugn (Feb 12, 2007 3:34 pm)

You don't mention that the headlights stopped working, or the starter won't turn over and start the car, so I'm assuming the battery and connections to the battery are okay.
 
I don't have any electrical schematics for your vehicle, however with that many items out I would look for a larger 'upstream' fuse or fuseable link from the smaller fuses. Look to see if your manual calls out a fuseable link (either in the cabin, or engine compartment).
 
You may have to find a set of schematics or service manual for your vehicle, if no one else chimes in to help.
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Re: Oldsmobile Intrigue Electrical [angelvaugn] by burdawg
Feb 13, 2007 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: angelvaugn (Feb 12, 2007 3:34 pm)

Could also be a faulty ignition switch, but without a wiring diagram it's hard to know for sure.
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Re: Oldsmobile Intrigue Electrical [kiawah] by angelvaugn
Feb 13, 2007 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: kiawah (Feb 12, 2007 3:53 pm)

Thanks for responding Kiawah. Yes, the headlights does work and the car starts. The car runs fine. Just the items mention in my first post do not work. So, you do not think the computer module might be the culprit as suggested?
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Re: Oldsmobile Intrigue Electrical [burdawg] by angelvaugn
Feb 13, 2007 (4:36 pm)
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Replying to: burdawg (Feb 13, 2007 7:14 am)

Thanks for responding burdawg. Ignition switch? Interesting!
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Re: Oldsmobile Intrigue Electrical [angelvaugn] by kiawah
Feb 13, 2007 (4:43 pm)
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Replying to: angelvaugn (Feb 13, 2007 4:33 pm)

I don't have any knowledge of that particular car or the schematics to look at, but I would doubt it. Normally the 'computers' control things like the engine and transmission. You've got basic power problems. Burdawq has identified a possible problem area as well (ignition switch). There are circuits in the car which are 'on' all the time, and there are circuits that become powered when the ignition key is in the on position. The ignition switch is one thing that is 'upstream' of the fuses, as I mentioned before an upstream item is what I would suspect. When I've seen ignition switches go bad, sometimes you can sit there and wiggle the key while the car is running, to see if it is a loose contact in the switch.
 
I'd look first at any fusable links or larger upstream fuses, as you can visually inspect them to see if they are okay. If you don't see anything blown, you can try wiggling the key to see if any change in symptoms. Beyond that, get a set of schematics or take it to a shop where they have online manuals they can look up.
 
Edit....Actually in re-reading your orig note, you say your brake lights and door locks don't work. The brake lights are definitely not related to the ignition switch and would be powered all the time, and door locks as well (or else you'd never be able to remotely open the doors). Back to looking for an upstream fusable link or large fuse.
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Re: Oldsmobile Intrigue Electrical [kiawah] by burdawg
Feb 13, 2007 (8:02 pm)
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Replying to: kiawah (Feb 13, 2007 4:43 pm)

That's a good point. Those circuits should live all the time. This is when a wiring diagram is very useful.
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Re: Electrical system dies, then resets! [kiawah] by kjjones
Feb 15, 2007 (9:20 pm)
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Replying to: kiawah (Jan 31, 2007 4:28 am)

Figured this out - it was a failing fusible link. The link apparantly had gone out previously as it had been spliced, but that splice had deteriorated enough to cause an open under higher loads but worked OK with minor loads.
 
Traced it after I got a factory wiring diagram and saw that all of the failing circuits (horn, cig lighter, tail lights, dome lights) were fed via this circuit.
 
KJ
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Dead electrical system revived immediately after jump start by jhcarver
Mar 08, 2007 (9:32 am)
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With no warning, our 2002 Cadillac suddenly did absolutely nothing when the key was turned. It was as if a battery cable had been disconnected. An external jump starter was hooked up to the remote connections under the hood, and the car started surprisingly quickly. The booster battery pack was disconnected and the car was turned off. Then, just for the heck of it, I tried to start it again immediately...and it did! Everything appeared normal except that the clock had been reset to 12:00. Our mechanic checked out the electrical system and all connections, but could find nothing obvious.
 
This is the original battery. Could there be an internal battery problem that would cause this. If so, why would an external jump start "fix" the problem?
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Re: Dead electrical system revived immediately after jump start [jhcarver] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Mar 08, 2007 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: jhcarver (Mar 08, 2007 9:32 am)

Well you are certainly due for a battery at 5 years.
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Re: Dead electrical system revived immediately after jump start [jhcarver] by kjjones
Mar 08, 2007 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: jhcarver (Mar 08, 2007 9:32 am)

I would suspect a loose/corroded battery cable - connecting the jumper cables could jostle it back to working status, and the mechanic checking (& I would expect cleaning/tightening) things may fix it for good.

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