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Re: HELP!!! 2001 chrysler voyager windows and door locks [pat13151]
by luckydogg
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Aug 19, 2008 (8:14 pm)
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Replying to: pat13151 (Aug 19, 2008 5:44 pm)
I had the same problem with my park ave. I went through everything, fuses, door module, window motors, etc. It ended up being a pin hole in a electrical wire that had finally rusted through..... In the Park Ave, the wire was under the windshield washer fluid container.. The wire was not in a harness. It just ran along the fender wall. Maybe this will help????
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- #1022 of 1085
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Re: HELP!!! 2001 chrysler voyager windows and door locks [luckydogg]
by pat13151
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Aug 22, 2008 (4:43 am)
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Replying to: luckydogg (Aug 19, 2008 8:14 pm)
update! went to an auto repair shop supposed to specialize in electrical problems with a BBB listing. The mechanic I talked to could not grasp the fact that when the passenger window doesn't work neither do the auto door locks (they lock when you hit a certain speed), the door lock button or the vent windows and the door ajar buzzer. When one works they all work. He started going on about how he could replace both window motors and the vent motors and that the locks would be another repair. He insisted it couldn't be a short or bad wire because none of my fuses were blown and insisted it couldn't be the window relay (wherever they hid that). He treated me like I was an idiot for thinking they could all be connected somehow. When the window works it works fine and so do the vents etc, If the motors were bad then I don't see how they could work fine sometimes and not others.  this is me screaming
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Re: HELP!!! 2001 chrysler voyager windows and door locks [pat13151]
by kiawah
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Aug 22, 2008 (4:58 am)
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Replying to: pat13151 (Aug 22, 2008 4:43 am)
You need to find someone who has electrical schematics for your vehicle (and knows how to use them).
I don't have your schematics, so can't help you. But I'd be looking at the power feed to those devices, you may have a relay with some burnt points creating a resistance and dropping the voltage. This voltage could be checked with a digital voltmeter. Many vehicles also have a small computer or part of the body control which also is involved, for instance, automatically locking the doors when your vehicle exceeds 10mph, or opening the door locks when you put it in park. Remote start controls, can also control windows.
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- #1024 of 1085
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Re: HELP!!! 2001 chrysler voyager windows and door locks [kiawah]
by pat13151
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Aug 22, 2008 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: kiawah (Aug 22, 2008 4:58 am)
Thanks for answering. I don't have remote start on my van or the remote to unlock the doors. I looked in the chilton repair manual for my van but I didn't find anything telling me where the relay for the windows is, someone said maybe under the dash somewhere.Unfortunately I'm a 57 year old woman who while I am handy I am not an auto mechanic. As you can see from my previous posts I'm not having much luck finding a qualified mechanic and I can't afford to take it to the dealership as they are way out of my budget. So far I've spent 200.00 and gotten nowhere. The last guy told me he could replace all the window motors and fix the door locks for around 3000.00 as they were all separate issues. I know this can't possibly be true as when they work they all work. He was the fifth supposedly certified mechanic I've talked to. It really frustrates me that that all these guys want to do is treat me like I'm stupid and take my money. If I had 3000.00 Id take it to the dealership.
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Re: HELP!!! 2001 chrysler voyager windows and door locks [pat13151]
by kiawah
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Aug 22, 2008 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: pat13151 (Aug 22, 2008 8:48 am)
online manual?
I just did a quick internet search for Voyager service manual, and came across these guys. Personally, I have never used them so don't know that their manuals get down to the electrical schematic level that you need. I've used HelmInc for online manuals successfully in the past, but they don't carry Plymouth manuals.
You want to find a set of manuals which gets you to a level of detail like this posting I have on my carspace that I did for someone else where I had the manuals, and was able to mark it up for them. Normally you'll only find black and white. Hayes and Chilton normally don't get down to that level of detail, you typically need some sort of factory service manuals which also need electrical schematics.
link
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Re: HELP!!! 2001 chrysler voyager windows and door locks [kiawah]
by pat13151
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Aug 24, 2008 (9:00 pm)
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Replying to: kiawah (Aug 22, 2008 9:03 am)
Thanks so much I couldn't find that info in the chilton or hayes manuals for my van. I'm printing all the info I can find that seems relevant. It did tell me where the window relay and fuses are. I wish I was sure what I needed from the site I paid 13.00 and I get to use it for a month. I wish you could look through the info for my van and tell me what I should be printing. Once I have the info I just have to find someone who will know how to use it without trying to charge me thousands of dollars. 
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Re: HELP!!! 2001 chrysler voyager windows and door locks [kiawah]
by pat13151
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Aug 24, 2008 (9:16 pm)
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Replying to: kiawah (Aug 22, 2008 9:03 am)
I was just wondering, if you had the time you could e-mail me and i could give you the log in info so you could look through the info on that site for me and maybe figure out what i really need. As I said I'm not a mechanic so I'm not sure how much or what info I really need. I printed everything I found on the windows and the wiring diagrams I don't think I can print the whole thing as I'm sure I'll run out of ink and paper..
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Re: HELP!!! 2001 chrysler voyager windows and door locks [pat13151]
by kiawah
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Aug 25, 2008 (3:39 am)
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Replying to: pat13151 (Aug 24, 2008 9:16 pm)
Try sending to kiawah carspace.com.
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brake lights/hazard switch
by lammy2
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Aug 25, 2008 (5:48 pm)
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If I move the hazard switch on my 99 yukon xl, the brake lights may or may not work. I have to keep a piece of paper next to the switch for them to work properly. I hear clicking noise if I move it also. The other day I shut off the engine and removed my key and there were several clicking noises and then one louder one. Could this be a wire in column shorting out or something more like a main fuse in the box under the hood? I have not taken it in to dealer yet because of the price. Hoping to find some answers here. Thank you.
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Re: brake lights/hazard switch [lammy2]
by kiawah
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Aug 25, 2008 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: lammy2 (Aug 25, 2008 5:48 pm)
Doesn't that sound like a bad hazard switch? Where you have to keep a sideways pressure on it for the connectors to make the right contact?
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