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#8416 of 8657 Steering angle sensor problem
Jan 13, 2011 (9:21 am)
Subaru Outback 2001. I had just replaced the drive shaft, rear differential bushings and the power steering rack. After I drove home from the dealership repair shop the problem occurred with my left turn. When I was making wide left turn the skidding yellow light came up and my car was stopping and going during the turn.
When I returned my car back to the dealership, they were not sure what was causing this problem and wanted to replace the Steering angle sensor at my expense, but they were not sure if it will cure the problem.
My question is: Could it be that the replacement of the draft shaft and the power steering rack caused the failure of the Steering angle sensor?
#8417 of 8657 Re: Steering angle sensor problem [jim439]
Jan 13, 2011 (2:58 pm)
Possibly, but it is more likely that they didn't put something back together correctly.
Either way, you paid them to do a job and if the systems they repaired are not working properly afterward, they need to "man up" and make it right. If it turns out that there is a sensor that is bad, it is reasonable for you to pay for the part, but otherwise it should be on their dime.
#8418 of 8657 Re: Steering angle sensor problem [jim439]
Jan 16, 2011 (10:00 am)
I'm going to assume that this is a H6 VDC? This sounds like a stability control like issue. Steering angle as defined by the rack sensor does not agree with the actual tire angle & vehicle path as defined by the yaw sensor - and the computer is selectively applying one or more corner brakes.
As Wes said, it sounds like something wasn't assembled quite right. The pinion gear on the rack might not have been centered when it was mounted? Just a guess on the cause, but the outcome cries false instability reading.
#8419 of 8657 Re: Steering angle sensor problem [fibber2]
Jan 16, 2011 (11:46 am)
If it is a VDC model, turning off VDC stability control should permit normal steering and braking. Have you tried this yet?
#8420 of 8657 Re: Steering angle sensor problem [fibber2]
Jan 17, 2011 (5:03 pm)
I looked in my '02 manual, and the steering angle sensor for VDC vehicles is located under the airbag/steering wheel assembly.
Is the steering wheel centered when the car is tracking straight? If the alignment is off or you have to turn the wheel crooked to make the car drive straight, that would probably be enough to cause this.
#8421 of 8657 2001 Outback catalytic converter and head gasket
Jan 25, 2011 (10:03 pm)
I have a 2001 Outback Wagon 5 Speed Manual Transmission with 114K miles. I live in Los Angeles.
My engine light came on and will not go out. My car is also losing oil, a quart every 5K or so.
I take my Outback for repairs for years to a reputable independent repair shop in LA.
I was told today that I need a new catalytic converter, and that I have oil leaking from both head gaskets. I know that 2001 Outbacks have had head gasket problems, but my car is over 10 years old and has over 100K miles. What shall I do? I can't sell the car because it can't pass CA Smog testing (required when you sell a car) without a new cataytic converter. The new heads will be expensive, due to the labor costs. I figure I am looking at over 3K repairs for a car worth maybe 4.5K.
Do I keep driving it until it dies, fix it, buy a new one. I am thinking about calling Subaru to complain. I think 2 head gaskets going bad with only 114K is a manufacturing defect. I love my car, love Subarus but I may now have to replace the converter and head gaskets, and the car only has 114K. I have had Hondas with many more miles and much less problems.
Any thoughts, suggestions?
#8422 of 8657 Re: 2001 Outback catalytic converter and head gasket [mtnsun]
Jan 26, 2011 (3:46 am)
The head gaskets and cats are common problems with these cars. I say drive it until it stops.
#8423 of 8657 Re: 2001 Outback catalytic converter and head gasket [mtnsun]
Jan 26, 2011 (8:44 am)
The converter may not even be the problem. It is also possible that the oxygen sensors are showing their age. What was the code? P0420? If so, I would simply reset the code at this point and see how long it takes to return. The only way to determine whether the cat is truly going bad is to do a "smog" test that sniffs the tailpipe. If the car is within tolerance, it is most likely not the cat.
As for the head gaskets... better oil than coolant! a quart every 5,000 miles is not bad at all, but it is bad that the leak is HG-related. Have you replaced the timing belt yet? If not, and you plan to keep the car, I would replace the gaskets. Otherwise, you could sell it, but with leaking gaskets I daresay it is not worth $4,500.
#8424 of 8657 Re: 2001 Outback catalytic converter and head gasket [mtnsun]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jan 26, 2011 (10:05 am)
You are supposed to use a special coolant to prevent head gasket deterioration so if that got neglected at some point, that might be part of the problem.
But the 2.5L engines are notorious for this issue, and Subaru isn't going to do anything about it at that mileage.
If you really love the car, it pays to fix it. I wouldn't wait until the engine self-destructs, no.
If you are in the San Francisco Bay Area, I can send you to a very good Subaru shop.
#8425 of 8657 Timing Belt
Feb 02, 2011 (9:22 am)
I just got this email from my dealership: Did you know that Subaru recommends that the timing belt on your 2003 LEGACY be changed every 7 years or up to 105,000 miles? Our records indicate that your vehicle is due for this service. I've heard a lot about the importance of replacing the thing at 105,000 miles but never the part about 105,000 miles OR SEVEN YEARS. My 2003 Legacy wagon (purchased 9/11/2002) has 57,500 miles on it. Does Subaru really recommend that I change the timing belt, and if not, should I do it anyway?