Subaru Legacy/Outback Wagons Maintenance & Repair

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#8190 of 8642 Re: 2000 Outback Manual Trans Problem [cfj1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Jan 14, 2010 (10:07 am)

Replying to: cfj1 (Jan 14, 2010 9:19 am)
You won't get diddley on a trade-in without the repair---you'd be giving it away.
 
Have you considered a used transmission?
 
The price quote seems very high to me. It should be something like 10/11 hours + parts. You could buy a brand new transmission from Subaru for that price.
 
If you are in the San Francisco Bay Area, e-mail me and I can put you in touch with Subaru resources.
 
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#8191 of 8642 2000 OB shut down, won't start by arvada42

Jan 15, 2010 (8:35 am)

My OB underwent a tune-up about two weeks ago, the spark plugs, wires, knock sensor, PCV valve, and alternator belt were all changed. The car also had both catalytic converters replaced, ending the reign of the check engine light. Driving home in the rain last night, after getting off the highway (going about 40 mph or so) I heard a clunk, rpms dropped to zero, oil at temp light started flashing, power steering went out. I poked around the engine for a bit, it would not start, everything seemed to be intact and functional, but the engine won't turn over. Any ideas?

#8192 of 8642 Re: 2000 OB shut down, won't start [arvada42] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Jan 15, 2010 (8:52 am)

Replying to: arvada42 (Jan 15, 2010 8:35 am)
Sounds like you broke a timing belt
 
Just a guess, and I hope not, but it does meet all the criteria for your situation.
 
I was going to say "broken serpentine belt" which accounts for MOST of your symptoms, but if the drive belt broke you'd still be able to rev the engine and the engine should crank off the battery voltage, even without an alternator.

#8193 of 8642 Re: 2000 OB shut down, won't start [arvada42] by rsholland

Jan 15, 2010 (9:11 am)

Replying to: arvada42 (Jan 15, 2010 8:35 am)
I think Shifty may be right. Did you ever have your timing belt inspected or replaced?
 
I would assume, being a 2000 car, that you've got a fair amount of miles on it. The 2.5L Subaru engine timing belt should be inspected at 90K, and replaced at 105K. Go beyond 105K and you run the risk of it breaking.
 
Bob

#8194 of 8642 Re: 2000 OB shut down, won't start [rsholland] by arvada42

Jan 15, 2010 (9:27 am)

Replying to: rsholland (Jan 15, 2010 9:11 am)
The car has been driven everyday for the last 10 years, but in high-traffic cities in South Korea. The mileage just hit 62,000. I was told that my timing belt should be fine until I hit 100,000. A friend mentioned something about water in my air intake.
 
I thought it was my serpentine belt when it happened, but I had it changed recently, since the old one was severely cracked. It appeared on track and intact.
 
I really hope it isn't the timing belt. How could I tell?

#8195 of 8642 Re: 2000 OB shut down, won't start [arvada42] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Jan 15, 2010 (10:17 am)

Replying to: arvada42 (Jan 15, 2010 9:27 am)
Gee, on a 2000 Subie you would have had to hit a mighty large puddle to suck water into your intake, since it is well above headlight level....and besides, if you did that, your engine would be seized tight---forever.....your car would have come to a screeching, wheel-locking halt.
 
I suppose you could have DOUSED the engine with water and flooded the electrics---that would be possible and fixable---hadn't thought about that.

#8196 of 8642 Re: 2000 OB shut down, won't start [Mr_Shiftright] by arvada42

Jan 15, 2010 (10:34 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 15, 2010 10:17 am)
My mechanic friend is the one who changed my serpentine, I told him my symptoms and he said it could be water in the engine. It was raining pretty good, but I don't recall driving through anything particularly large to have doused the engine, unless there was a delay between puddle and no cylinder movement. I'm still wondering why the "oil at temp" light started flashing. My oil level was fine, and there was coolant (although bubbling) was up to level as well. It was still raining pretty good when I was toying with it, but there was a slight sucking sound coming from the tailpipe when I tried to start it. It may have been the wind gusting funny, but would a blockage cause these problems?

#8197 of 8642 Re: 2000 OB shut down, won't start [arvada42] by xwesx

Jan 15, 2010 (11:19 am)

Replying to: arvada42 (Jan 15, 2010 10:34 am)
I suspect the timing belt.
 
The water theory should be easy to test - just pull out the air filter. If it is wet, there is a good chance that is the problem.

#8198 of 8642 Re: 2000 OB shut down, won't start [xwesx] by ateixeira

Jan 15, 2010 (12:00 pm)

Replying to: xwesx (Jan 15, 2010 11:19 am)
Yep, and if it is, remove the spark plugs, spray in a bunch of WD40 in to each cylinder, and cycle the starter a few times to eject the water. WD = Water Displacing, so it'll help get the water out of the cylinders.
 
Dry the intake, change the filter, and try to start her again.
 
We rescued a Subaru XT6 that sucked in water once during a fun-run in the Pine Barrens. Owner was lucky it stalled right away and no engine damage occured. Very lucky.
 
He drove through a water crossing that went over his hood, though. It was much more than rain.

#8199 of 8642 Re: 2000 OB shut down, won't start [arvada42] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Jan 15, 2010 (12:03 pm)

Replying to: arvada42 (Jan 15, 2010 10:34 am)
Don't think so. The air intake is just below the lip of the front hood---had you plunged that deeply into water, it would have come over onto your windshield.
 
I know your mechanic hopes it was water, but I think maybe there's the possibility that this is his baby.
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