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Tires Wearing / Rear Adjusters
by pathtomax
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Oct 09, 2009 (6:34 pm)
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Question regarding my 2001 Outback Ltd Wagon, 131,000 miles
The last time I was at the dealership for a quick oil change, they mentioned that my tires seem to be wearing at the edges. I do have my tires rotated regularly at 6000-7000 miles and they currently have about 30k miles on them. They noted that I may need to replace my "adjusters" and if they started this process it may take more time and require more work.
Any idea what these adjusters are ??
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- #8148 of 8173
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Re: wheel shakes at speed and during breaking - ton of work already done [xwesx]
by krall
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Oct 19, 2009 (4:55 am)
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Replying to: xwesx (Oct 07, 2009 2:01 pm)
Hi All -I had planned to post that the problem was solved - but alas it's not :<( Here's an update on my situation. (1) Had 4 new tires put on, balanced, 4-wheel alignment.Still had wheel shake at high speeds and under braking. (2) Had front rotors turned and put on new front pads. Took great care to make sure all wheels (lugs) were properly tightened (star pattern) and torqued to 75 ft/lbs. **WOW - problem was gone (so I thought). Although, I still felt the slightest vibration in the wheel, had no visible skake and the car tracked straight. (3) This morning on the way to work the shake came back (200 miles since turning rotors and new pads and new tires were put on). At speeds around 65-70 I would get an intermittent wheel shake (very minor) and then when braking above 60 the wheel shake returned (wheel turns back and forth very rapidly). If I tap the brakes I don't feel this, but if I apply some pressure (not slam on the brakes) the wheel shakes, but the car continues straight - no pulling. I've been driving very carefully (not aggressive) trying to allow the pads to seat. This is so disheartening - I've dumped thousands into this car (see posts above) and simply can't continue to put $$ into this car. Any further suggestions are greatly appreciated - I need to figure this out quick.
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- #8149 of 8173
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Re: wheel shakes at speed and during breaking - ton of work already done [krall]
by dakotadriver
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Oct 19, 2009 (6:02 am)
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Replying to: krall (Oct 19, 2009 4:55 am)
Disheartening to hear this news, as I am dreading going through the same thing with my '01. I can report that, once I increased the torgue on the lug nuts to around 80ft lb the wobble has decreased noticeably, although it still exists (the front tire wobble seems to have decreased the most, the back still feels like it is wobbling). I started at 70ft lbs and each week or two have been going up in 5ft lb increments and at 80 it seems to have helped more than it had before; i.e., it doesn't seem to be wobbling intermittantly like it had been. It feels just like it did when I first upped the torque to 80 last Friday. I think I will probably increase the torque to around 85ft lbs and see if that makes it better. I also noticed that it did not seem to be holding the torque very well at 70 and 75 as I was re-torquing at least every other day when I was torquing to those measurements (sometimes even later the same day). A mechanic friend of mine (whose last job was at a Subaru dealership) said he would check it out for me also so I will post again with anything substantive that he tells me, but if you want to try absolutely everything you might want to up the torque again (and check to see if it is holding that measurement). As ridiculous as that advice sounds to me given all that you've done so far, it can't hurt.
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- #8150 of 8173
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Re: wheel shakes at speed and during breaking - ton of work already done [dakotadriver]
by krall
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Oct 19, 2009 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: dakotadriver (Oct 19, 2009 6:02 am)
Thanks for the advice, I did just check and the torque held - 75 ft/lbs. I could increase to 80, but wondering if there isn't something else going on here (bad rotor, caliper, tierod... hard to believe that something could be broken down there given all the work and number of folks who have looked at it).
Thanks again and any other thoughts are also welcome.
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- #8151 of 8173
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Re: wheel shakes at speed and during breaking - ton of work already done [krall]
by hammerhead
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Oct 19, 2009 (8:44 pm)
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Replying to: krall (Oct 19, 2009 8:15 am)
Factory (Subaru) or after-market wheels?
If by chance they are after-market, the center holes may be too big... the wheels could be perfectly balanced off the car, but if they aren't on-center when they're mounted, it won't matter. Without inserts to take up the slack, they could be off-center.
(Voice of experience - I've been through the same process)
Good luck.
Cheers!
Paul
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- #8152 of 8173
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Re: wheel shakes at speed and during breaking - ton of work already done [hammerhead]
by krall
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Oct 20, 2009 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: hammerhead (Oct 19, 2009 8:44 pm)
That's interesting - however mine are factory wheels (rims).
Believe it or not, I took both front wheels off last night and through the old pads back on just to see what would happen. Now the wheel shake appears to be gone. I've driven at variable speeds and braked rather had, but as of yet can't duplicate the shake that was present before.
Does this mean that the rotor is not warped or did putting the old pads on compensate for some degree of warping and it's only a matter of time until the symptom re-appears.
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- #8153 of 8173
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Re: wheel shakes at speed and during breaking - ton of work already done [krall]
by xwesx
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Oct 20, 2009 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: krall (Oct 20, 2009 9:57 am)
I really don't think the issue has to do with the brakes. If your rotors were warped, they would cause a shake every time you applied them. I'm still leaning toward tie rods and/or ball joints. These joints, only worn, are not a problem a visual inspection will catch. They have to be tested.
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- #8154 of 8173
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Re: O1 Legacy ran hot - Follow-up [originalbitman]
by originalbitman
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Oct 21, 2009 (11:02 am)
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Replying to: originalbitman (Sep 23, 2009 8:56 pm)
Good news all around. Dealer did the head-gaskets, various new seals, hoses, thermostat and flush of the radiator.
Called Subaru and inquired about it. Forwarded relevant invoices and such including the 2004 recall for the cooling system additive.
Subaru is forwarding a check for the labor. This is awesome seeing as I have 106k on the car and it is almost 9 years old.
Thank you Subaru!
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- #8155 of 8173
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Re: O1 Legacy ran hot - Follow-up [originalbitman]
by ateixeira
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Oct 22, 2009 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: originalbitman (Oct 21, 2009 11:02 am)
bit: good news, thanks for the follow-up report.
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- #8156 of 8173
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Re: O1 Legacy ran hot - Follow-up [originalbitman]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Oct 22, 2009 (12:58 pm)
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Replying to: originalbitman (Oct 21, 2009 11:02 am)
FAN-tastic. That is a surprise. I guess this is a lesson in keeping really good records.
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