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#7661 of 8657 94 Subaru Legacy CD Player Question
May 10, 2008 (11:44 am)
I have a 1994 Subaru Legacy and my factory cd player has stopped accepting cds. I would like to install an aftermarket cd player and keep the separate factory cassette/radio as well. I removed the factory cd player, and the plugs are unlike what I have seen on aftermarket cd players. I have one round plug which goes to the back of the cassette player and one small rectangular plug which goes into the wiring harness behind the unit. Is there any way to install a new aftermarket cd player into this set up? Adapter maybe? Or do I need to purchase a whole new cassette/radio/cd combo to install?
Thanks in advance for any help.
#7662 of 8657 Re: 94 Subaru Legacy CD Player Question [lord150]
May 10, 2008 (7:53 pm)
You'll need a complete replacement. The "daughter" unit is proprietary to the "parent" unit.
#7663 of 8657 Go with Subaru Authorized Repair/Dealer or Independent Garage?
May 11, 2008 (1:26 pm)
In post #7657, I mentioned work that should be done on a 2000 Subaru Outback. Would you all recommend going with an authorized Subaru dealer/repair center, or an independent garage? Independents can charge a lot less, but can be less familiar with certain makes of cars.
#7664 of 8657 Best independent garages for Subaru in San Jose, CA or nearby?
May 11, 2008 (1:30 pm)
Would sincerely appreciate any recommendations for best independent garages in or near San Jose (Santa Clara, Sunnyvale, Mountainview, Palo Alto, Menlo Park). Would like to get a quote on repair work that I've also priced at Capitol Subaru, an authorized Subaru center/dealer in San Jose. Good independent garages can often be a better value.
#7665 of 8657 Re: Repair list and estimates for inspected 2000 Subaru Outback [mountainwa
May 11, 2008 (2:12 pm)
Mountainwalker, it sounds like this one requires what I would consider to be a lot of repair and maintenance. I wouldn't call that a a good check up. If possible, I would pass on this vehicle (if you are purchasing it, if its a gift or something, that would be different) You are basically rebuilding the motor at that point. Subarus with the 2.5 litre engine from that era are known for having head gasket issues that sometimes require a new motor due to damage to the block. Given the oil pump issue and the leaking head gaskets, I would probably pass on this model.
One of the maintenance items I didn't see listed there was changing the brake fluid, which is listed as a 36 mo/ 36k service in my manual. This helps the master cylinder and prevents corrosion in the calipers.
I am also not a fan of the $99 fuel system service, as it seems to be no better than the $5-10 ones you can pick up from any auto parts store. I also think the mark up going from standard plugs to platinum is excessive, since there are only 4.
#7666 of 8657 Re: Repair list and estimates for inspected 2000 Subaru Outback [mountainwa
May 11, 2008 (5:28 pm)
I sincerely appreciate the advice. What do you think considering that:
1) the checkup was done by a Subaru authorized dealer/garage - they are typically much more expensive - I would use an independent garage and have found a few good ones that handle Subarus in the same area. The cost at an independent nearby will probably be at least 1/3 less.
2) the leaks are not significant - they should be addressed soon, but the car drives very well - and the leaks are probably common for a car that old - remember that it's a 2000 model year.
3) one of the most important things, cylinder compression, tested excellent
4) cosmetically the car is in in excellent shape inside and out - one tiny dent in the bumper
5) I can buy the car at $1600-2100 below book ($1600 if you consider the car in good condition, $2100 if excellent), the garage thought it was in pretty good condition.
6) agree with you on the fuel treatment - would do myself
7) I need a car ready by the time I'm local around June 15, so I've got to find one now, get it inspected and do the repairs/maintenance before I'm there (by having the seller bring the car in to the garage of my choice as part of the purchase).
Note that I'm not challenging your advice, I really appreciate it, just giving you more data points so you can help me make a good judgement call.
#7667 of 8657 Re: Repair list and estimates for inspected 2000 Subaru Outback [mountainwa
May 11, 2008 (6:11 pm)
More information is always good when you are making decisions or giving advice. I guess my main concern is that model's prone to head gasket issues, and coupled with the oil leaking, has me concerned about the longevity of that motor.
While the compression test provides a vote of confidence, I would be more interested in the results of a cylinder leak-down test than a straight compression test (it can get at head gasket issues). If the gaskets are leaking internally, then that gets into the oil (which should be noticeable as the oil is milky in color), that can also mean inadequate lubrication and damaged internal bearings.
Motor replacement (rebuilding, buying a rebuilt motor etc) is about $5k (but would include repairing all of the other maladies listed as well).
I also noticed you mentioned bluebook, but there are different pricing schemes there. Are you talking about wholesale bluebook, private party pricing, or retail pricing? I have found some of their pricing to be optimistic as well. You might want to check the edmunds pricing, blue book pricing, and NADA prices to get a range. Pricing also varies regionally. The pacific northwest, the bay area in CA, and certain areas in the midwest or anomalies for pricing.
I think its smart to do what you are doing and researching the vehicle's needs and pricing, its much better to go in knowing what the risks are, even if the risks are worth it.
#7668 of 8657 Re: Repair list and estimates for inspected 2000 Subaru Outback [mountainwa
May 11, 2008 (6:27 pm)
I really appreciate the advice.
How does the shop do a cylinder leak-down test? Would this have been done while they were doing the cylinder compression test? How much does it cost/how long does it take? Would the technician who worked on the car likely know the condition? I spoke with his boss, not with him. I can try to catch the tech tomorrow.
I checked blue book pricing for the Bay Area for a car of this mileage and year.
#7669 of 8657 thanks all, passed on bad purchase thanks to your advice
May 12, 2008 (9:09 am)
Thanks everyone for your advice on the 2000 Subaru Outback I was looking at. Your advice saved a lot of misery.
#7670 of 8657 Most important maintenance upon buying a used Subaru Outback
May 12, 2008 (9:11 am)
I'm looking for a good used Subaru Outback after not needing to own a car for several years living and working in a major metropolitan area. What regular maintenance would you perform on the vehicle and when? This is a list I put together with posters on Edmunds and CarTalk and the garage that inspected a car for me. Is there anything you would add? How much do you think each of the below should cost if done by a good independent garage?
LIST (any used car just bought should get the following, unless you know they were done within the last 3-6 months):
- Coolant drain/fill
- Add Subaru coolant conditioner
- ATF (Automatic Trans Fluid)/Trans drain/fill
- Fuel filter
- Replace timing belt if over 90,000 miles
- Front +Rear Differential fluid drain/fill (though often don’t need anything)
- Replace Spark Plugs (every 30K in non-turbo Subaru engines, unless it has platinums and is under 100k)
- Replace Spark Plug Wires (if applicable)
- Brake Fluid Flush and Change
- Brake Pads inspection and replacement if necessary
- Brake pad rotors if needed (fine if look good and not felt)
- Fuel system flush – could be done with $4-5 bottle of fuel system cleaner
- Power steering fluid drain/fill if fluid is discolored (reconsider price/purchase if power steering fluid looks bad)
- Replace Tires if necessary – for Subaru Outback AWD, make sure all tires matched for tread, tread depth and size
- The Owner's Manuel should have a list off all of the required maintenance and when it should be done. Follow the listed services and you should have a good vehicle that lasts many miles
- If there are good maintenance records, much of that may be up to date. I would say that the three most commonly skipped items are coolant, transmission fluid, and fuel filter. If the vehicle has >90k miles, I would also have the timing belt replaced, if it has not been already.
- The timing belt. If there is no documented proof that the timing belt has been changed, consider it original. Average mileage for any FY 2000 car is 100,000 miles; so, the timing belt is due. When the timing belt slips, expensive harm will occur to the engine.
- Replacing coolant and make sure you get a hold of Subaru coolant conditioner whoever performs it. Timing belt is due. Tires are very important that they are matched in wear/size/make/model. Plugs are every 30k in Subaru non-turbo engines.
- Power steering & fuel system flush both are "wallet" flushes, don't bother.
- Oil change - That's the *first* thing, unless the previous owner has a receipt from a fairly recent one I would assume it's been let slide in anticipation of selling. Brake pads can be inspected and only need replaced if they are worn out. Rotors should be fine if there is no problem seen or felt. Differentials probably don't need anything. Fuel system should be left alone. Power steering fluid should be left alone unless it looks bad, and then you might want to reconsider the whole purchase, or at least the price.