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#7127 of 8657 A/C leaking into passenger floor on 2005 Outback wagon
Aug 20, 2007 (7:53 am)
I bought my 2005 Outback LLBean edition in late August 2004. In the summer of 2006 we were on a long drive to Boston on a hot day and my husband was sitting on the passenger side and he noticed dripping on his foot. (This actually may have happened in 2005 also, I just cant remember now.) We had the A/C running. I'm not sure if this is the 1st time it happened or not, Because I drive in the car alot my myself and I dont notice what is going on over on the passenger side floor. So I brought it to Subaru, who said "There is no problem, its not wet now". So a few weeks later he notices it again and we bring it in. They see that the floor is soaked and they said that there was debris in the A/C drain and they blew it out. OK, fine. This year in 2007 I bring the car in AGAIN with the same problem and they blow out the A/C drain again to get rid of any debris. That was in the end of June. In late July we notice it AGAIN, while running the A/C on a long drive to Boston on a very hot day.
So I call Subaru again on 7/31 and tell them I have brought the car in 3-4 times for this issue and its still not fixed. The guy sayd that they stand by their work and to bring it in again and they will get to the bottom of it. So I bring it back on 8/3 and wait 3 hours while they take apart the dash. When they are done they tell me that the A/C drain was blocked by wiring and that was causing the water to come up into the car rather than empty outside. He assures me that it should be all set now.
On 8/16 we notice it again! Argh. I am so pissed and feel like I have given Subaru ample time to fix this issue. My husband wants to fill out lemon paperwork on the car. The VT law says that you have to have reported the problem 2x during the initial warranty, and we have reported at least 3 times, maybe even 4.
Has anyone seen had a problem like this before?
#7128 of 8657 Re: Legacy Head Gasket issues-which engines? [doug22]
Aug 20, 2007 (9:45 am)
Doug, the problem is with the 2.5L engine, not 2.2L, though it is not impossible for a gasket on a 2.2 to fail. Unless the car has a service record, there would be no easy way to tell if the gasket(s) was replaced.
Other problems I have heard about or experienced include: 1. transmission (hesitation to go forward when first placed in gear); 2. leaky valve cover gaskets and camshaft seals; and 3. a propensity for cabin electrical to go awry such as door locks (no auto unlock for non-driver door) and dash lighting.
I might be forgetting something, but none of these things (other than transmission) would send me running from the car. I would deduct them from the price, though!
#7129 of 8657 Re: A/C leaking into passenger floor on 2005 Outback wagon [khallock]
Aug 20, 2007 (10:13 am)
I have a 2005 Outback and a 2006 Legacy. Have never seen water dripping before. It also sounds like an uncommon problem- unique to your car.
I would take the car to a different dealership. I bet each time you took the car in, you probably got the same tech. The same tech probably did the same job, each and every time. Make sure you explain to the new dealership your problems with the old one.
If a new dealership is not possible, then I would ask to speak to the service manager. You can also call Subaru of America. Perhaps they would put some pressure on the dealership to fix the problem. No dealership likes SOA calling them.
You also may want to get all-weather mats, if you don't already have them. Then at least the water will puddle up and not get absorbed into the carpet.
#7130 of 8657 Re: A/C leaking into passenger floor on 2005 Outback wagon [plim77]
Aug 20, 2007 (10:36 am)
Plim77 - Thanks. Taking it to another dealership isnt really going to work because that would mean me driving at least an hour to get to one. I have the all-weather mats and they dont do anything for this problem. The water starts dripping way further up under the dashboard and by the time it gets to the floor, its underneath the all-weather mats.
I think we are going to try filling out the lemon paperwork to see if that puts a fire under anyones ass, and then call SOA, or maybe I should do it vice versa, but i feel like I have given them enough chances as it is...if I could get a refund or a new car out of the deal that would be sweet.
#7131 of 8657 Re: A/C leaking into passenger floor on 2005 Outback wagon [khallock]
Aug 20, 2007 (12:18 pm)
Yes, and deserved at this point as well. No A/C drain leak should ever cause the headaches is has caused for you.
#7132 of 8657 Re: A/C leaking into passenger floor on 2005 Outback wagon [xwesx]
Aug 20, 2007 (1:58 pm)
I think the problem may be that you had it on recirculate for too long in traffic? It's fairly common for the condensor which is in front of the passengers feet area to freeze up during bumper to bumper traffic in very hot weather. This also sometimes causes you to not get very cold air out of the vents either. Next time it happens try switching from recirc to non-recirc and/or move the temp to a warmer setting.
#7133 of 8657 Re: A/C leaking into passenger floor on 2005 Outback wagon [paisan]
Aug 21, 2007 (6:13 am)
Mike, No I don't think so because when we usually notice this it is when we are driving on the highway with no traffic. Also I live in Vermont and I dont hit much bumper-to-bumper traffic up here!
#7134 of 8657 Re: A/C leaking into passenger floor on 2005 Outback wagon [khallock]
Aug 21, 2007 (4:03 pm)
Hmm, ok not that then. It's definitely an easy fix for sure, this isn't rocket science. What part of VT? I may be moving up to Rutland/Manchester for work shortly and know about 3 people in VT.
#7135 of 8657 Re: A/C leaking into passenger floor on 2005 Outback wagon [paisan]
Aug 22, 2007 (4:42 am)
I live right outside of Burlington, so further north. It seems like it would be an easy fix to me too, not sure what they are dragging their feet about.
#7136 of 8657 Strange buzzing noise from engine _before_ starting?
Aug 24, 2007 (8:40 pm)
Just got a new (to us) 2005 Legacy wagon; it's fine when it's running, but after I turn the ignition on but one click before starting the engine (so the dashboard's lit up), there's a strange buzzing noise coming from somewhere towards the back of the engine bay. (not sure where, sorry; standing in front of the car with the hood open, it's about a foot from the back of the engine bay, somewhere below the top, but it's hard to place exactly because of the type of sound).
For want of any better description, it sounds like it's picking up radio interference, or a ground hum on a speaker, or something along those lines, rather than a rattle. I had it checked out by a garage before buying it and they didn't mention anything, so I'm assuming it's nothing to worry about, but does anyone know what this could be?