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Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Wagon
#7095 of 8657 Re: Unusual Sound at High Speed in 2004 Subaru Outback Wagon [rhonda10]
Jun 05, 2007 (8:03 am)
I just bought a 2004 Subaru Outback Wagon (38,000 miles) and noticed the same thing. Did you ever resolve your problem? It would be helpful to know before I bring it back to the dealer to see what the problem is. My sound actually occurred when I was doing about 55-60. It happened twice in about 15 minutes. At first I thought it was the radio but it still occurred after I shut the radio off.
#7096 of 8657 Re: 2005 outback 2.5i -- Coolant Level [marc_outback]
Jun 06, 2007 (5:22 am)
external HG leak ? check back of block/head connection on driver's side, right against firewall; get a flashlite and start car cold - if you notice coolant weeping/dripping with tiny bubbles, see your subaru dealer ( if car is still on warranty); if car is not on warranty anymore, trade it for a non-subaru vehicle.........
#7097 of 8657 Re: 2001 outback head gasket [rhansen25]
Jun 06, 2007 (5:37 am)
was an original HG leak internal or external ? ( originally it was assumed '00 and newer H4 2.5 engines have only external leak - now it looks that the external leak often spreads into fire rings and becomes internal...). If it was diagnosed as external by the shop who did repair, they may start playing blame game with you, saying that you overheated engine and warped heads, and that warranty repair only covers gasket itself, and you will have to do head machining on your dime, then also pay for all the labor of tearing engine apart again and then puting it back together. HG only costs $ 50. I would say, trade your subbie for something more reliable. Next thing to go after heads will be probably your transmission ( is it automatic ?)......... I drove '00 Outback Ltd for over 2 years and I'm happy I got rid of that POS.
#7098 of 8657 "Schedued" Maintenance - Ripped off?
Jun 20, 2007 (4:44 pm)
I just took our 2001 Outback in for its 90,000 mile service. When I brought it to the dealer yesterday, they said the major service would cost $550. OK, it is what it is. There were a few other items I wanted them to look at (converter heat shield rattling, valve(s) tapping), so I expected the final bill to be somewhat more. Mid-day today, I got a call from the dealer saying they recommended several other items: a $130 "Engine Flush" (gets sludge out of oil pan, apparently), a $150 fuel injector service, "A/C Tuneup" ($239) and front and rear differential service ($198). I declined the last two and took the first two.
When I went back to the dealer to pick up the car, I asked who "recommended" these service items, since the Subaru manual didn't seem to call them out (they weren't included in the standard 90K service) and she said the dealer did, and showed me a pre-printed list of stuff they recommend.
I said that if this was her recommendation, she should have asked me about it when I brought my car in for service, not waited until mid day and, frankly, making it seem like they had discovered a problem in need of repair, rather than offering to perform additional preventive maintenance.
My question (be honest, I know y'all will be!) is was I ripped off for the two items I chose and/or should I have performed at least the differential work? No outward signs that the AC is working other than perfectly and the differentials aren't making funny noises . I'm a little careful with this car, since the head gasket was replaced twice...fortunately under warranty.
This smells like the dealer trying to pad his bill at my expense to me.
#7099 of 8657 Re: "Schedued" Maintenance - Ripped off? [jmoose]
Jun 21, 2007 (6:49 am)
If the A/C works fine I would not touch it. Just make sure you use the A/C once in a while to circulate the refrigerant and lube the seals.
Rear diff - change the fluid yourself, it's soooo easy. Remove the top plug first, then the bottom one. My Forester just needed a 1/2" drive. Oil drains out.
Replace the bottom plug first. Then pump in 1 quart of 75w90 gear oil, about $4. A hand held oil pump will cost you about $7 if you need that.
When done, replace the top plug, voila, done.
$11 and about 20 minutes of work. Ramps are best but you can jack the rear diff, just use a couple of jack stands.
I see no reason to pay $198, GOOD GOD that is overpriced.
Drive it over and I'll do the whole thing for 1/4 that price.
#7100 of 8657 Re: "Schedued" Maintenance - Ripped off? [jmoose]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jun 21, 2007 (7:31 am)
Well you weren't "ripped off" if they actually did what they said they would do, so that's not the issue. As to what is necessary, probably, were I in your shoes I would have only done the last item, the differential oil changes. There was apparently nothing to suggest sludge in your engine or clogged fuel injectors or an AC problem, so those seem unnecessary to me. I would have declined them if they were my car...in fact, I have declined them at the Toyota dealer.
#7101 of 8657 Re: "Schedued" Maintenance - Ripped off? [jmoose]
Jun 21, 2007 (9:50 am)
Which dealer was it?
#7102 of 8657 Re: "Schedued" Maintenance - Ripped off? [marc_outback]
Jun 21, 2007 (11:08 am)
Dealer was Curry Ford/Subaru, Yorktown Heights NY.
#7103 of 8657 Re: "Schedued" Maintenance - Ripped off? [ateixeira]
Jun 22, 2007 (5:22 am)
Thanks for the info and "DIY Tutorial"!
#7104 of 8657 Re: "Schedued" Maintenance - Ripped off? [jmoose]
Jun 22, 2007 (7:29 am)
Careful, gear oil stinks! Wear gloves. Your wife will not come near you for days!