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#5610 of 8644 Re: 2005 Outback 3.0 Brakes. [laughergirl]
Dec 13, 2005 (8:53 am)
I read your message and it sounds EXACTLY like my experience. I bought a 2002 Subaru Outback (new). I have the same grinding noise pulling out of my driveway (small incline). I also never liked the way these brakes stopped. I live in snow country and slid into another vehicle a couple years back. That has petrified me ever since. I now drive my husband's pickup. But, back to the grinding, they also told me "that's the way they are". I took my car back to the shop to have them checked right before my 3 year warranty was up and they replaced the whole braking system. Thank goodness I was still under warranty. Now, 8 months after my warranty expired, I need to replace the "soft plug" between the transmission and engine. The labor will cost $500.00 alone. Merry Xmas to me. I love the car in the summer, great gas mileage, but will not buy another one.
#5611 of 8644 1995 legacy AWD question
Dec 13, 2005 (6:56 pm)
I just purchased a 1995 AWD Legacy, It runs nice, however, the first snow has come and it will not go at all in the snow. This is my first AWD. Only one of the front tires spins at a time, I have never had the rear tires spin at all, should they atleast spin alittle? . The tires on it are just basic. Does this sound normal....Does it need snow tires..... When the snow was slushie it did fine...but then it got really cold and like a packed powder.... My FWD car goes right up a small hill on our driveway no problem. Thanx inadvance
#5612 of 8644 Re: 2005 Outback 3.0 Brakes. [stantont]
Dec 13, 2005 (7:17 pm)
The noise happened several times today. Always starts on an incline. It sound like fluid is moving around in the front wheels and the grinding is under my brake pedal. The pedal moves closer than it should to the floor. After this it happened I noticed it when stopping at slow speeds. Even on level ground. I never feel this when I am stopping from a fast speed. This is the weirdest thing I have ever experienced from a car.
#5613 of 8644 Re: 1995 legacy AWD question [steeproad]
Dec 13, 2005 (7:22 pm)
Are you sure that it is AWD not all 95's are. Take a look see if it is awd under the car is the rear diff there ? your condition is not normal. do you have a yellow fwd (front wheel drive) light on the dash ? this would explain why the awd is not working. see owners manual under spare tire install this will explain this light
Your car should fly through the snow even with poor tires
It is normal for only one tire to spin it has to due with the gearing in the diff
#5614 of 8644 Re: 2005 Outback 3.0 Brakes. [subaru2002]
Dec 13, 2005 (7:22 pm)
Thanks for the input. I have always felt that these brakes were not quite right. Not as strong as one would expect. Then after several thousand miles the grimlins have really taken over. I am going to be the biggest pest my dealer has ever seen until these things are fixed. Hopefully before the warranty runs out.
#5615 of 8644 Re: 1995 legacy AWD question [subaruguru]
Dec 13, 2005 (9:01 pm)
Yes it is AWD....I checked the rear diff, and VIN. No FWD light is on in the dash either. It didn't come with a owners manual. I was hoping for the best before I took to a shop, I guess it doesn't look good. I would hate to pay alot of money for someone to fix a simple problem, but it looks more serious.
#5616 of 8644 Re: 1995 legacy AWD question [steeproad]
Dec 13, 2005 (9:14 pm)
There is a way to disengage the rear wheels under the hood. Its as simple as pulling a fuse or putting a fuse in i can't remember, but on my roomates old outback it was up on the firewall on the passenger side. It was meant to be used when the vehicle is being towed and what not, might want to check into that before you worry too much. I don't have any real experience with it other than seeing it down by a two truck guy when my roomates car wouldn't start.
#5617 of 8644 Re: 1995 legacy AWD question [nicco2]
Dec 14, 2005 (5:49 am)
Since you bought it used, perhaps the owners were trying to hide something, put in the fuse for FWD (yes you insert one for FWD, remove it for AWD) and somehow disabled the FWD light. Also I heard that some clutch can go which sends power to the rear, but the car will still think it's in AWD mode and won't alert you.
As for wheels spinning, on my driveway test - on a 05 OB - which set a trouble code BTW, I had all 4 wheels spinning with the car in place, I must say it was quite a beutiful thing.
#5618 of 8644 Re: Tranny [subaruguru]
Dec 14, 2005 (8:11 am)
I have a recent trans problem with my 97 legacy outback AWD. While driving at slow speed making tight radius turns in forward or reverse, such as while parking, the rear wheels bind up as if the breaks were applied. At normal driving speed it shifts and runs fine. After parking and turning off the key while in park there is a bit of a surge back as if the trans were still in gear and straining to move forward. This doesn't happen if I shut down in neutral. I am taking the car in to the dealer this week and would like some insight into what I might expect to hear and the cost to repair before I get there.
Thanks in advance,
#5619 of 8644 Re: 1995 legacy AWD question [tkanic]
Dec 14, 2005 (1:27 pm)
For a 1995, it is normal for only one wheel to spin.... but on each axle. They do not have limited slip diffys. If the FWD fuse was inserted, it should illuminate a light on the dash. Just because it is not there does not mean that the fuse is not inserted, but it reduces the likelihood. The fuse tray is located, as was said, right in front of the firewall (high up in the compartment) on the passenger side - you really cannot miss it. If there is a fuse in there, pull it. If not, then you probably have a bad clutch pack or something is disconnected/broken on the driveshaft. If it was the rear diffy or a broken driveshaft, you should be hearing some not-so-pleasant noises! Rotten of a seller to do that to you, but honest people are more the exception these days.....
I'm somewhat surprised that it performs worse than a FWD car would, but hard to diagnose the exact problem at this point!