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#3174 of 8641 Subaru Legacy Engine Hesitation
Jun 09, 2004 (3:19 pm)
I have a 2004 Legacy 5 speed with 800 miles. When upshifting from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd at about 2000 rpm the engine " stumbles/hesitates " as the clutch is released. If you race the engine and shift above 3500 rpm there is no noticeable hesitation.There is no C/E light on.
Dealer claims to have never heard of this!!!
Anyone have any experience of this?
The '94 Legacy 5 speed I traded had no such problem.
This makes driving in slow " stop/go "traffic unpleasant.
Jun 10, 2004 (6:45 am)
I'd try an ECU reset first by disonnecting the battery for 20 minutes. Get a clean slate. Maybe during the PDI it sat and idled for a long time, dunno.
#3177 of 8641 Shifting at 3500 rpm...
Jun 10, 2004 (1:25 pm)
is normal for these engines. You are not 'racing' the engine. In fact, if you're shifting up from second to third at 2000 rpm, the result is that your engine is trying to accelerate your car at a little better than idle in third gear. Not good, this is the definiton of lugging. No doubt you're getting stumbling and hesitation. This is not a high tourque v8 engine, get those revs up, these engines have no problem with it (despite the busy sounds). Check your owners manual, I think it outlines optimum shifting speeds/ rpms for each gear.
#3178 of 8641 Issue with Dealerships
Jun 10, 2004 (2:40 pm)
Hello posters (not wall hangings)
I have an issue here that is starting to drive me batty.
I currently have a 2001 LL bean. I drove out to see family in Arizona (from WI) in March. While going through Colorado, I started to notice a subtle rattle in the engine compartment. I thought maybe injectors so when I got to Phoenix I took my car in.
It had about 59800 miles on it when I drove onto the lot so I thought that if it were powertrain related it would still be covered under warranty.
It turned out that the timing chain tensioners/pullies were bad and they had to replace them. After 6 days of them having the car, they finally replaced these parts, under warranty.
On the drive home (again in Colorado) I noticed a thunk under the hood while going up a hill on the highway. It only happened once, and the car seemed to be driving fine. However, I stopped at the next exit to check it out. When I was at idle, I noticed a rythmic sound coming from the engine. A check showed that the power steering pully was EXTREMELY Bent. I took off the soundproofing and saw that the bolts holding the pump were loose and that one was missing (obviously had come out and bent the pulley as it did). The nearest Subaru dealer couldn't see it until the next week so I took it to a GoodYear garage. It would take 3 days and $600 to get the part.
Now my assumption and theirs was that the bolts were not tightened/torqued when the dealer in Arizona put the car back together. I also didn't have the time to sit in CO and wait for parts as I had already been delayed in AZ. So they took the pump out and beat the pully back into alignment (kinda) and told me it could fail at any moment.
Fortunately the pump and the pulley made it back home and I took it to Subaru in Waukesha. They refused to fix it and said that the pully was "operating within specs." I called the dealer in AZ and they initially said they would have it fixed and then reversed that when they talked to the dealer in Waukesha whom told them it was "operating within specs." Now they are refusing to return my calls and to fix the pump.
Now, wether or not it is operating within specs or not, you don't fix a part like this by flogging it with a hammer. I feel this should be fixed but I don't know where to go next. The "responsible" dealer is 2000 miles away and I don't see the point in sticking too much money into getting them to fix it as I could just replace it myself. Any info would be helpful
#3179 of 8641 Ryguy - please see my post on the other
Jun 10, 2004 (5:18 pm)
board for a suggestion.
#3180 of 8641 Re: Ryguy - please see my post on the other [subaru_team #3179]
Jun 13, 2004 (4:26 pm)
I have an 04 5speed wagon with about 1200 miles... it took a while to learn the thing but mine shifts smoothe and is quiet and even forgiving.. not to mention torqy and fun. The key for smoothe transitions between gears is a soft touch and slow release of the clutch, which has great feel anyway and happens automatically after a few tries.. As far as engine stumbling, I would say you are likely not revving it up enough and are lugging the small engine.. also the boxer engine sounds gravely in low rpms.. could cause concern though is part of the personality.. If the lugging continues, follow Juices thoughts, or better yet, drive another 5 speed at the dealer to make sure the car is at fault.. good luck. F.
#3181 of 8641 Lug tightening
Jun 13, 2004 (7:42 pm)
If I do the proper torque it's way way too loose. I have had several snapped studs recently due to a shop overtorquing down the lugs and when I took em off I snapped it off. Fine line between the proper torque and too tight or too loose.
No matter how tight I manually tighten my lugs I haven't warped my rotors due to it, with an impact I believe you could do it though. What we do at our shop is use impact on the lower setting to snug up the lugs, then we hand torque them down after it's on the ground.
Jun 15, 2004 (8:59 am)
I own a 95' Subaru Legacy wagon and it has started to rust. It is not a huge problem yet, but i am starting to worry about. My 2 questions are the following: Would this car qualify for the corrosion warranty or has that been long expired? And what is the best way to solve this problem?