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Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Wagon
Mar 08, 2004 (5:34 am)
Hey Juice- I'm just curious as to why Subaru isn't selling the regular Legacy L models for 2004. According to SOA's website and this one the cheapest Legacy models that are being sold right now are the L 35th Anniversary editions. The reason I'm commenting on this is because my father is interested in a Legacy wagon, but he doesn't want a sunroof, fog lights, alloys and those other frills. And no-frills L models of any year are tough to find from our experience.
Mar 08, 2004 (11:18 am)
Well, I'd say wait.
The 2005 models will offer a 2.5i (base) model with no moonroof. I think it will have alloys, but why not reduce unsprung weight? It's less mass for the suspension to fight with.
fitzy2: next time, see if you can find an incline and then aim the car down, then drive up the ramps. That leaves it about level while you're going the work. That may or may not help the oil circulate faster, but it's worth a shot.
Also, try pre-filling the new oil filter before you install it. Folks here gave me that hint.
#2819 of 8657 Oil filter prefill
Mar 09, 2004 (6:44 am)
One of my favorite topics - if you want to see just how long it takes the oil to start to run through a new filter - fill it once, let it set for a couple of minutes - can't find the oil? Its all in the element. I usually add oil a few times, such that it's about 1/2 to 3/4 full when I put it on the engine.
I'm afraid I had "prime the filter" so thoroughly drummed into me when I was a kid, I'll always believe its the best way to go.
Here's an observation that makes no sense - Purolator OEM's the Subaru filters, -but- at least for the filter's I'm using now the Purolators thread on easier. Strange.
Mar 09, 2004 (10:06 am)
I contacted Subaru about plain Legacy L models last June.
I was told that Subaru did manufacture some plain L models for fleet sales and that the dealer could special order them. At that time they had several 2003 Legacy L models in the factory lot. Early in the 2004 model year, I saw punlished prices for non SE Legacy models, so I think some were produced.
The dealers were not ordering them because the SE package was priced very low for the amount of equipment included, so I could not find any on the dealer lots.
The factory should start retooling for the 2005 models very soon, so I think they old models are no longer being produced.
Even if your dealer will special order a plain 2004 Legacy, I would agree with juice and
wait for the 2005 models that should hit the streets in June. They look more stylish and offer many refinements
Mar 09, 2004 (10:24 am)
The SE package was a bargain, you got a lot more than your money's worth.
They'd sell you a base Outback if you didn't want a moonroof. That gets you heated seats.
Subaru doesn't really sell "stripped" models, the Brighton is long gone.
Mar 09, 2004 (2:31 pm)
Pre-fill. The other thing you can do is crank the engine w/o starting it a few times. This will move the oil into the engine.
#2823 of 8657 Priming the oil filter and Tires
Mar 09, 2004 (5:23 pm)
Thank you all for the advice on the filter priming....never heard of that before but I heard the same from an avid Subaru friend of mine.
Will do this from now on.
I have another question. I need to replace one tire (because of a temp replacement...previous owner). I like to buy 60 - 70K rated tires but the Bridgestone Potenza's are rated only for 45k. I cant' afford four new tires and was wondering have any of you put on other than the Bridgestones and what do you think about two different tires on same end (225-60R-16's of course)as from the other end/???? just narrowing the options........thanks again.....since I discovered this platform I have been reassured by the help out there.
Mar 09, 2004 (5:47 pm)
You really need 4 of the same tires/wear in each corner.
Mar 09, 2004 (6:10 pm)
Make sure you're looking at the right ratings. The Potenza RE92s on my Outback have a TW rating of 360, and have a lot of life left at 38000 miles. I think these will go to 60K easy.
Other Potenza RE92s have lower TW ratings and will only last 25-40K.
Another great tire is the Potenza RE750. That is more of a performance tire (still all season) and has a TW rating of 400.
Take a look at the TireRack website and browse the selection. You should be able to find a tire that meets your needs, whether it's handling, quiet ride, etc....
Definitely make sure all the tires are within the 0.25" circumference difference recommended by Subaru. That generally means 4 new tires or getting new tires shaved to match the tread depth of the others.
Mar 10, 2004 (5:13 am)
check out the Bridgestone Turanza LS as well, it get rave reviews at Tirerack also and does very well in their tests. Has 400AA A rating which is very good traction for a non "peformance" tire . The LS H is about the same price as the W rated RE750 but the LS V is even more! When the RE92s on my Legacy are shot I'm going for the Turanzas this time.They are also not directional like the RE750 (or even the 950). Having trashed a set of Michelin Pilot XGT Hs from poor alignment in the legacy 2 years ago, I'd hate to see what woudl have happened if I had had directional tires at the time! If you haven;'t seen any on another car find a new BMW 745i with the "standard" wheels!