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60s-70s big Chevrolets vs. big Fords

650 messages,  Last post on Feb 21, 2008 at 7:31 AM

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#641 of 650 Probably was a 307... by andre1969

Dec 06, 2002 (7:47 am)

...but then again, Olds was still offering that little 260 V-8 that had all of 100 hp in 1982. I'm sure a few of those found their way into the Deltas!
 
A friend of mine used to have an '82 Cutlass Supreme sedan, with the 260 V-8 and the 3-speed automatic. One night we did a little drag race out on the highway, when I had my '86 Monte with a 305 and 4-speed automatic. I was actually suprised at how well that Cutlass did. My Monte was still faster, but not as much faster as you would think, considering they both weighed about the same yet the Monte had 50 more hp (dunno about torque though...I think the 305 had 245 but I don't know about the 260...maybe 210-220 ft-lb?)

#642 of 650 Re: I like them both, too [ghulet] by kens67stang

Jan 23, 2007 (10:49 pm)

Replying to: ghulet (Oct 26, 2001 6:48 pm)
the 390 that was first put into the Mustangs had the simple problem of being strangled off.........small carb,restrictive exhaust,lose those two, and the 4bbl 390 WAS a good runner............remember, they were rated at 300+ hp

#643 of 650 big chevy by explorerx4

Jan 26, 2007 (7:58 pm)

wadda you think?
 
1969 caprice

#644 of 650 Re: big chevy [explorerx4] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Jan 27, 2007 (12:08 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 26, 2007 7:58 pm)
I think we voted already that the seller is delirious and watching too much television.

#645 of 650 Re: big chevy [Mr_Shiftright] by explorerx4

Jan 27, 2007 (3:15 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 27, 2007 12:08 pm)
ok simon, it's not making the next round!

#646 of 650 Strangled Engines by cptchetco

Apr 14, 2007 (11:30 pm)

As Ken mentioned, it was not unusual for Ford up to the early 70s, to sell cars with too small a carburator and exhaust. I understand the purpose of this, and it goes back to the Flatheads, was to allow torque in the regularly usuable speed ranges, and under tax the engines (so the don't work as hard at high power settings) to extend their usefull life.
 
It not only worked, it made them very easy to "hop-up"

#647 of 650 Re: [rea98d] by datba

Jun 05, 2007 (2:17 pm)

Replying to: rea98d (Oct 27, 2001 12:33 pm)
i have a question? i have a 71 monterey with a 450 V8 in it... it runs good, its completely stock and clean. but how much are they worth?

#648 of 650 Re: [datba] by andre1969

Jun 05, 2007 (2:39 pm)

Replying to: datba (Jun 05, 2007 2:17 pm)
Are you sure that's not a 429? I just looked in my old car book, and it shows a 429 as being the biggest engine in 1971, although a 460 was first available for 1972.
 
My book also shows 3 different 429's being available for the Monterrey: a 320 hp version, 360, and 370.
 
What body style is it? And is it a Monterrey or Monterrey Custom?

#649 of 650 Hard Choice by luckins

Feb 21, 2008 (6:23 am)

I grew up with 60s and 70 Fords and Chevys. My dad worked for Ford in the 70s and my mom worked for a GM leasing agency and got a free lease car every six months. I had a 78 Ford Granada that I love. But, honestly, I would never own a big car like that ever again. It was so hard to park and even to drive with its wide turning radius.
 
But, I tell you, I haven't really found affordable cars that have the kind of torque and horsepower as those old tanks.

#650 of 650 Hard Choice (luckins) by hpmctorque

Feb 21, 2008 (7:31 am)

"But, I tell you, I haven't really found affordable cars that have the kind of torque and horsepower as those old tanks."
 
Modern affordable cars may or may not have less horsepower than the old Detroit tanks, after you account for the changes in how horsepower was calculated then versus today, but modern cars tend to develop their horsepower at higher rpm than the old ones. I agree that the old barges tended to have more torque, especially at low speeds, than the new cars. The fact that new transmissions have more gears than the old ones is a compensating factor. In addition, the new cars tend to be lighter than the old ones you refer to, but maybe not all that much lighter, due to all the new safety and emissions regulations. Lastly, modern cars are much more aerodynamic than the old ones, but the benefit of this is minimal in accelerating from stop sign. The upshot, though, is that a new four cylinder Accord/Altima/Camry/Fusion/Malibu can probably out-accelerate an old Fury/Galaxie/Granada/Impala/or whatever by a comfortable margin, and V6 versions of the '08 cars would absolutely blow the old ones away. Even the old cars with the big engine options wouldn't stand a chance against the new V6s.
 
The old cars felt faster than what they actually were, compared to newer cars, because of the sounds they made, and the fact that the back of the car went down and the hood came up more under hard acceleration. This contributed to the feeling of quick acceleration.
 
Can anyone help with horsepower (after conversion to the new way of calculating) and torque (including rpms, if possible) comparisons?

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