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#365 of 391 Warranties by im_brentwood Apr 28, 2002 (7:36 am)
Replying to: rroyce10 (Feb 21, 2003 5:17 am) I know with a lot of them, the warranties ARE Valid in the US.. but they ask a questiuon to the dealer...   "What do the license plates on the Unit say?"   Bill
#366 of 391 Canadian Private seller by tboner1965 Apr 28, 2002 (10:26 am)
Replying to: rroyce10 (Feb 21, 2003 5:17 am) probably couldn't make much $$$. I suspect he/she would have to pay taxes/VAT on the car. To then turn it over to a US buyer, that person would have to pay the canadian sticker, taxes and whatever vig the canadian buyer/seller wanted.   I suspect the difference wouldn't be enough for the hassle at that point.   TB
#367 of 391 Odometer fraud follows increase in vehicle imports from Canada by Car_man HOST Nov 03, 2002 (7:10 am)
Replying to: rroyce10 (Feb 21, 2003 5:17 am) I came across the following article this morning, and immediately thought of this discussion and pulled it out of the old freezer. It's from a newsletter called Dealer's Edge that I subscribe to.   "Dealer's Edge November 4, 2002 Vol. 8, No. 41 439 Words Page 6   -------------------------------------------------   Odometer fraud follows increase in vehicle imports from Canada   Fewer miles on a vehicle mean dealers can increase the sale prices by thousands of dollars.   DealersEdge has reported several times (DE 2/11/02, 4/29/02, 7/22/02, 8/12/02) on the gray market trade for used vehicles between Canada and the U.S. No wonder. The temptation is great. Favorable exchange rates make vehicles brought in from Canada and sold in the U. S. extremely profitable. So far, so good. But a disturbing trend, odometer tampering, has begun to emerge as an unwelcome angle to this business.   According to a report in the Seattle Times, law enforcement officers broke up an organized ring of Canadian and Spokane-area car dealers accused of fixing odometers at falsely low settings, allowing them to inflate car prices and bilk buyers out of as much as $1 million in all.   Authorities say it is a growing problem from Washington State to Maine.   Before Canadian vehicles can be sold in the U.S., their speedometers and odometers must be converted from kilometers to miles. This creates an opportunity for shady dealers to roll a few thousand miles off the vehicle in the process, and then increase its sale price by thousands of dollars.   Seven people in Canada and the United States were indicted by a federal grand jury in Spokane for rolling back the odometers on 122 used vehicles from Canada that were then sold in eastern Washington state.   Most of the vehicles were expensive trucks and sport-utility vehicles, and some had up to 50,000 miles taken off the odometer. Estimates are that an additional profit of 10 cents for each mile that is rolled back, or $5,000 on 50,000 miles.   Role of NAFTA   The North American Free Trade Agreement has produced a huge increase in the volume of cross-border car sales. In 1996, only 2,500 used vehicles were brought into the U. S. from Canada. So far this year, the total is about 350,000, according to published reports. But the U.S. Department of Transportation has only four agents dedicated to odometer fraud in the entire country, and no one is assigned to look specifically at vehicles from Canada.   No comprehensive study of the problem has been conducted, but the NHTSA has about 10 investigations in progress. Still, dealers insist the vast majority of vehicles from Canada have honest odometer readings.   At Dealer Auto Auction Northwest in Spokane, where about 10 percent to 20 percent of the cars sold come from Canada, co-owner Greg Mahugh said his business had already detected problems with some cars before the federal government announced the indictments. His company had already stopped working with the people who were charged, he said.   Nationally, the federal government estimates more than 450,000 people every year buy used vehicles with mileage gauges rolled back."   Enjoy and please feel free to use the following discussion to talk specifically about this article or about Gray Market imports in general.   Car_man Host Smart Shoppers / FWI Message Boards
#368 of 391 Car_man HOST by rroyce10 Nov 03, 2002 (8:04 am)
Replying to: rroyce10 (Feb 21, 2003 5:17 am) ... That's a great article, thanks for droppin' it off ..            That should fall in line with the Canadian dealer that got caught about 6 weeks ago at the Detroit auction with all the "roll backs" .. I bet his account is lookin' a little thin right now .. Ouch.! .l.o.l....            Terry.
#369 of 391 CAR MAN by sonjaab Nov 03, 2002 (11:11 am)
Replying to: rroyce10 (Feb 21, 2003 5:17 am) Check that again ! Some of the cars sold up here in northern NY have been converted to MPH speedos with importer sticker on door jamb. Also some are sold with just the km speedo. A couple of my buds up here have Can. import trucks with both!........geo
#370 of 391 We won't take a gray market trade by isellpotiac Nov 04, 2002 (7:42 am)
Replying to: rroyce10 (Feb 21, 2003 5:17 am) Often see customers from sonjaab's area. First thing I do is start asking questions about the trade, where did you buy it? Where is the title? Let's run a Vin check! Stuff like that. Too much of a headache. When someone is shopping trade 60-100 miles from thier home it just screams trouble. Funny thing is, when confronted with the facts, these customers get pissed at me. Like I am the first one to share the bad news with them. I will always tell them to take it back to where they bought it from.
#371 of 391 by rbrenton88 Nov 04, 2002 (10:41 am)
Replying to: rroyce10 (Feb 21, 2003 5:17 am) Was that Landru who got caught doing the rollbacks? I always suspected he was hiding something.
#372 of 391 You sir, by landru2 Nov 04, 2002 (11:54 am)
Replying to: rroyce10 (Feb 21, 2003 5:17 am) I say you sir, have impuned my character! I challenge you to duel! Lease calculators at thirty paces?   :^) (I've always been a Foghorn Leghorn fan)
#373 of 391 SAD STORY by sonjaab Nov 08, 2002 (10:11 am)
Replying to: rroyce10 (Feb 21, 2003 5:17 am) Overheard a conversation the other day "What do you mean you can't honor the warranty on my 2000 chevy ! Sold new in Canada ? Imported to the USA ? It was made in the US.......I bought it from a used car dealer..He didn't tell me that !" I listened to this person for a few minutes. Then went and spoke with her. I said GM cut off the warranty on Can. Imported cars a few months ago. Such as Honda , toy, and others did.... I suggested she contact a GM dealer in Gan. Ont Can. for warranty work ! Will keep ya' posted............geo
#374 of 391 i think by visionxp Nov 09, 2002 (2:38 pm)
Replying to: rroyce10 (Feb 21, 2003 5:17 am) that people who actually go and buy cars from canada and then bring'em back here are pretty smart and dont allowfactories to take advantage of them because me, personally, cant think of any logical reason why the cars are priced higher here in the US(remember the cars are made in the US) than in Canada. however lower prices in canada are justified because wages are a lot lower and the canadian dolar is worth less than the USD. the other way around is not justified so if the american car makers want to discourage grey market imports they should stop charging more for the same car only because we(in the US) make more money.   "buying American cars from Canada? I thought the idea of buying american was to support OUR auto workers and economy, not Canada's? How much were these poseurs saving?"   thats the ideea here but it doesnt work that way:) first you support the companies that are ripping you off and the people that manage to go around that are not posers.   my $0.02

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