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Replying to: dusti (Apr 16, 2002 3:53 pm) Raybear--Exactly. Funny how the price always has to go up. royce--great example of the shoe on the other foot. tboner- outstanding as usual. I totally agree. Corporations always take advantage of favorable money or wage rates, etc, but heaven forbid that a consumer can do the exact same thing. Completely hypocritical in my opinon. Companies spend hundreds of thousands of dollars lobbying politicians in both countries for favorable laws for them, but an individual buyer does not have that same political power or clout. rob--I hated it in school when the whole class got punished for one person's behavior. It wasn't fair then and it still isn't fair now. landru--I can see where you are coming from in being so opposed to this subject, because it does impact your paycheck. If my company was closing my plant to move it to canada I am sure I would oppose it to. But this discussion needs to be about canadian and US consumers and car makers, not individual car salesmen. Also I do not see the canadian govt pushig away visitors and tourists to your country. I love coming to Vancouver and when I am there I buy many items to bring back home with me. Grey market has never been an issue with my purchases. But yes I am taking advantage of the exchange rate, I am getting a great trip at a great price, a win for me and a win for the merchants that I am buying from and a win for the canadians that are employed because I am coming there for a trip and spending money. kcram---With all due respect, can we get real? Its a car. Its a car when it rolls off the assembly line, its a car when it gets off the truck in Canada, its a car when someone buys it. Playing semantics about it is a product and the dealer is not the end user just clouds the subject. You said "Ford is "selling" the car to the dealership " and then the dealer sells it to me. I do not see any difference. If the govt wants to invent some red tape to say I have to title a car, but not my microwave, that doesn't make a car any less of a commodity. I have an analogy I like to apply to human behavior. We learned in chemsitry class in college that electrons orbiting the nucleus of an atom reside on different level energy shells each stacked one above another. Without an outside stimulus, each electron will try to seek its lowest energy level. This is its natural behavior. It is my opinion that all things in nature follow this same principle, humans included. Cheetahs do not run at 100 mph all day, only when they need to to eat. For all of our noble ideas of being hard workers and superior level creatures, we are all basically seeking that lowest energy level. I think most people if they could quit there job tomorrow and be financially well off for the rest of their lives to pursue their dreams or hobbies would do it. I know I would. This is exactly what this grey market is about. Without an outside stimulus, US buyers follow the path to the lowest price. Now manufacturers are providing that outside stimulus by not honoring their warranty promises. |
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Replying to: dusti (Apr 16, 2002 3:53 pm) Can you image Bill Ford, Bob Lutz, and Dieter Zetsch telling their respective companies: "Let's see the public wants more features, greater saftey systems, longer warranty, etc. Maybe we should add all that stuff and drop our price in the largest auto market in the world. Oh and tell the dealer body we're gonna cut their profit as well." Um - in my world that never happens. 
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Replying to: dusti (Apr 16, 2002 3:53 pm) So yes, I can easily see products with more features, better performance, and a lower price tag. I see them every day  TB |
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Replying to: dusti (Apr 16, 2002 3:53 pm) Terry. |
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Replying to: dusti (Apr 16, 2002 3:53 pm) And not a one of them runs WinBloze. Sorry, don't have much to offer on that topic. TB |
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Replying to: dusti (Apr 16, 2002 3:53 pm) Also, I agree with tbone, there are many products that offer better features for a lower price, just look at vcr's, dvd players and tv's. When these products were first introduced they were prohibitively expensive. Now they are so cheap they are almost throw away products. If it breaks in a few years, just get another. royce--I think I maybe able to give you some insight on Alienware PC's. I do computer support, down in the trenches, not at the God level like tbone (just kidding tbone..LOL). I mostly deal with compaqs, dells and gateways, however I also am a mid level gamer, not hardcore mind you. Alienware and Falcon Northwest make some awesome gaming rigs, however IMHO they are overpriced. You are paying full retail for the cutting edge components that will be obsolete in 3 to 6 months. Cutting edge parts are expensive, no matter where you buy them, compusa or joes computer shop. My philosophy has always been to buy the one generation old technology. It is much cheaper and works with 99% of games available. In fact most games available today run great on a geforce 2 video card. No games run the features in a geforce 4 and just a few run features in a geforce 3. Of course I built my rig, so I could pick and choose my parts. When coworkers ask me about pc's most do not want them for gaming so I recommend dell or gateway. You get a good pc with good support. The gaming rig companies make great products, and there support is said to be top notch, but you pay for that just like you pay alot more for a mercedes even though a focus will get you across town just the same. There is a good canadian company, just to try to stay on topic, called Voodoo that makes good pc's. Not sure about the warranty issue though, it may be void if you buy it in canada but plan to use it in the US (see how stupid that sounds). Your mileage may vary... |
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Replying to: dusti (Apr 16, 2002 3:53 pm) What about ABS ..? Terry. |
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Replying to: dusti (Apr 16, 2002 3:53 pm) I agree with you mostly on Microsoft business practices, however I think in the long run the standardization that windows brings is good for computers. I remember the old days of trying to install hardware and software when standards were not that rigid. I will gladly take plug and play and windows api's in winxp over that mess. I think win2000 and winxp are where win95 should have been. Software and hardware work and they are stable. I tried setting up a linux rig a few years ago and it was a mess. Very hard to find drivers, maybe that is better now. |
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Replying to: dusti (Apr 16, 2002 3:53 pm) |
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Replying to: dusti (Apr 16, 2002 3:53 pm) I primarily use Windows for websurfing, e-mail and games for my children (nothing that requires a full bore game rig) In fact, I believe the fastest processor in my home is a Celeron 766. I just finished installing one our new E12000 systems for the US Air Force. Nice rig. Maximum configuration is 52 processors and 288GB of RAM. Typical configuration is 36 processors with 144GB of RAM and 9 IO boats that contain 4 IO cards each. It can be divided into anywhere between one and nine seperate domains. The E15000 is essentially twice the E12K with 106 processors max and 576GB max, but typically 72 procs with 288GB RAM and of course twice the max number of IO boats and domains. Most will not be running this at home as it requires 6 30A power circuits and some serious climate control. Not to mention it is 3000# fully loaded in the shipping crate. (Weighs a bit less when all the packing material is removed.) See all the details at: http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Systems/SunFire15K/spec.html And I believe they are cheaper than the E10000 was when it was released about 5 years ago. (Bringing it back onto topic) TB Thinking maybe my next car needs to be the automotive equivalent of Linux, the kit car
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