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#17457 of 17829 Re: BTW ... [mdaffron] - 18" wheels
Aug 26, 2005 (5:06 am)
EIGHTEEN-INCH wheels on the 2006 Mazda6s???!!!
Where is Mazda going with this wheel-size fetish? Case in point:
My 1992 Protege alloys: 14-inch.
My 2000 Protege alloys: 15-inch.
My wife's 2002 Protege alloys: 16-inch.
My 2005 Mazda3 alloys: 17-inch.
Per the MAZDA 6 Tech website, larger wheels and tires cause a big increase in unsprung weight which dramatically reduces the performance of the car. Most owners who auto-cross their cars, down size their wheels to 16" to improve handling and acceleration.
#17458 of 17829 Re: 18" wheels [bluem6i]
Aug 26, 2005 (9:17 am)
The weight of the wheel depends on the design and material as well. A larger wheel doesn't always mean it's heavier.
Also, the 18 inchers are optional on the Mazda6.
#17459 of 17829 Re: 18" wheels [mazda6s]
Aug 26, 2005 (10:07 am)
Also, the 18 inchers are optional on the Mazda6.
Optional, yes, but probably standard on the sport and grand sport packages, which the majority of the performance-oriented drivers buy.
IMO, 18" wheels are OVERKILL on this car. There are plenty of 17" wheel/tire combos that fit the bill, in terms of looks, ride quality, and handling. I highly doubt the OEM 18" wheel will be lighter than the current OEM 17" wheels, let alone aftermarket wheels.
Unfortunately, it's the LOOK that Mazda has to achieve, not core perfromance. They see and hear the 6's with 18" or 19" wheels, and even a few 20" cars are out there (although it's not safe or healthy to a car's suspension in any way, shape or form.) They figure that 18" will look good. They forget about the increased weight, rolling resistance, lower resistance to pothole damage, and the (lack of) ride quality or comfort. Kiss your fuel economy numbers goodbye. Not to mention the limited tire sizes they can use, and the expense it costs to replace them!
Somebody at Mazda needs to be held down while being slapped repeatedly on the back of the head! NOBODY that autocrosses will use 18" wheels, and as stated before, they use 16" or even 15" wheels. 17" wheels are the biggest they need to be, and I'll INSIST that they replace the 18" pizzapans with them before I'll sign a purchase order.
Save the 18" wheels for the upcoming CX-7, and instead inject another 20-30 HP in EACH of the engines, as well as a 6-speed stick. You'd attract more possible sales, rather than the "bling-bling" crowd.
#17460 of 17829 Re: 18" wheels [mz6greyghost]
Aug 28, 2005 (11:31 am)
"Optional, yes, but probably standard on the sport and grand sport packages, which the majority of the performance-oriented drivers buy. "
No, the 18 inchers are only standard on the '06 Mazda6 s Grand Sport and Grand Touring (AT only) trim levels, so you only get them if you get the s model with leather. Do autocrossers like leather seats? Probably not.
Since I hate leather seats (don't get me started) this is fine with me.
#17461 of 17829 Mazda 6 i 5-speed, any input?
Aug 31, 2005 (8:13 am)
I'm planning to buy a new car in the next week or so and have narrowed my choices to the Mazda3 and Mazda6. I prefer the interior room and overall design of the 6, but the 3 has (at least thus far) been more in my price range (at or under $20k).
I've test driven the 3 s 4-door with both manual and automatic transmission. I've also tested the 6 s 4-door with both transmissions. I haven't had driven a 6 i yet, but I've found one at a dealer in the color I like (Lapis Blue with black cloth) with Bose/Moonroof package and 5-speed manual. The car is 150 miles away, so it will be this weekend before I can go look at/test drive it.
My question is this- does the 2.3L have adequate power for this car when mated to the manual transmission? I found this combo very acceptable in the 3 s, but the 6 is a bigger car.
Aug 31, 2005 (8:40 am)
I drove a Mazda6i for 1 day as a rental while my Mazda6s was having some warranty work done. Automatic transmission. Mazda6i was more responsive and tossable (suspect lighter engine and better tranny to engine match) around town but I noticed a loss of power around 40-50 mph that I didnt like. I suspect the manual would be fine for you. And I believe you will appreciate the extra room the interior space the Mazda6 provides over the Mazda3.
On a different note my Mazda6s was involved in an accident three days ago. I was broadsided by a driver who went through a red light (have two witnesses to back me up). My car has damage from the front bumper along the drivers side. Looks awful. The Mazda6 did a good job protecting me although I did sustain injuries to my shoulder, neck, and left hand side torso.
Not sure about California laws regarding "diminished value" (difference in price between pre-accident condition and value of car after car repaired) but if the other party's insurance carrier decides to repair the car I will request compensation for diminished value. If they refuse I will take them to small claims court. From what I've read you have a better chance winning if the accident was the other drivers fault.
#17463 of 17829 Re: Mazda 6 i 5-speed, any input? [allfiredup]
Aug 31, 2005 (9:20 am)
My question is this- does the 2.3L have adequate power for this car when mated to the manual transmission?
In a word, yes! Power from the 4-cyl is more than adequate for the 6, expecially with the 5-speed manual. Power losses through the manual transmission is a fraction of what they are in the automatics. As a result, the 6i 5-speed is no slouch, and it feels (and has) more rear-wheel HP than many other 4-cyls (and a few V6's as well) saddled with a slushbox.
For my money, get the bigger car.
As far as price, a 6i 5-speed with a few options can easily be had for less than $20K with rebates, and a little bargaining. Check out edmunds.com for pricing information, then work from there. Remember, a smart shopper NEVER pays sticker for a car.
Good luck, and enjoy the 6!
#17464 of 17829 Re: Mazda 6 i 5-speed, any input? [mz6greyghost]
Aug 31, 2005 (9:40 am)
I have 2 Mazda6i's (both with ATX) and the power is excellent. The ATX improves (as does the motor) as you get more miles on it. You can always use the manu-matic mode if you want. The A/C is excellent in the 6 (and we live in FL - very hot & humid). I have read that some are complaining about the A/C in the 3.
Lastly, I bought my 2005 6i ATX for $15, 400 (before the $699 dealer fee). I got the $2000 "employee" discount and the $1000 MAC financing discount. That's less than I paid for my 2002 Protege 3 years ago.
#17465 of 17829 new 6i atx June/05
Sep 02, 2005 (6:22 pm)
Just passed the 5000 mile mark, not one defect yet. Car is gold ash with 17 inch wheel pkg. Got 29.1 u.s. gal or 35 cdn imperial gal on trip last week with four adults, 4 sets of golf clubs plus luggage,cruise set at 70 mph, air on and strong headwind. Car is very quiet even with 50 series tires. Looks so much better than accord or camry. Manual shift feature on the atx is so good especially for third gear passes on highway. Plenty of power for passing on the highway especially when in the 4000 rpm range. The beige interior and black dash is a perfect match for the gold ash exterior.
#17466 of 17829 Center console display
Sep 05, 2005 (10:51 am)
I've got a pretty good question for all of you guys...Even the dealer and service don't know how to !! When you look closely on the display that is above the central air vents right above the clock, there are options that are available for example fuel consuption/100km etc. Does anyone of you know how to make these things work ? My car is an '04 model GT V6 engine with the GFX package.