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#16414 of 17829 Mind changed again. Oh, and we leased a Mazda6 yesterday!
Mar 30, 2004 (6:02 am)
Here's the long version of the story.
If you've been following along (And for some reason care. ) my wife and I own a 2002 Escape and owned a '96 Civic EX coupe until this past Saturday. We've been going back and forth on what to do about our vehicle situation ever since our first child was born four months ago. The Escape is great for a young family, but a 2-door aging Civic is not.
So we first decided to trade the Honda in on a Mazda3 or a Mazda6. What's not to like? Both have four doors and are fun to drive. Problem solved. Or so we thought.
Then the NAIAS came along and I saw pictures of the production '05 Mustang and my head started spinning (I've always wanted a Mustang but never had the opportunity due to life's little twists and turns). I had to have one.
A month and a half went by and I kept contorting my body to get the little tyke into the back of the Civic, and hated every minute of it. A week later (this was last Tuesday the 23rd) we put an ad in the paper asking $6000 for the Civic. Several calls later I had some appointments set up to show it this past weekend. All Dads wanting to buy it for their sons. Go figure.
Saturday morning a guy calls me, is close to my house so I agree to meet him right away, and his son to my surprise, in the parking lot of the local grocery store. The kid test drives it, with me in the passenger seat and Dad in the back (And with only a learning permit as I later found out), and loves it. Dad makes an offer I couldn't refuse, gets a check from the bank, transfers the title, and we're suddenly a one car family.
Now, all of a sudden, I'm the guy in the commercial saying "I need a car". Only I wasn't in a big white room and no cars started flying by me.
So yesterday I called the local Mazda dealer, told them what I wanted, and was informed that a similar model was rolling off of the truck at that moment (Coincidentally, the same thing happened to us with the Escape). The wife and I skipped out of work to go see it and ended up driving it home last night! We are now the proud leasers (I'm still gettin' that Mustang, but not for three more years. ) of a 2004 redfire Mazda6s 5-speed. Two option packages were on it. The Bose audio sys. and the sport pkg. w/ spoiler. We used our S-Plan discount and agreed to a fair deal for all. Probably could have done better, but the salesman was excellent and we were happy with the price as well as the way we were treated.
This car is absolutely AMAZING. I now understand the enthusiasm a lot of you have expressed for this car and look forward to sharing my own in the future.
Keep up the good posts! I gained a lot of knowledge from this thread and probably wouldn't have strayed from the Mustang if it hadn't been for all the positive comments from owners. After all, magazines can only tell you so much about a car.
Mar 30, 2004 (6:25 am)
First, Congrats on your new car!
I too have the S-Plan. Can you give me some details on your deal? What were the numbers, especially the lease numbers (ie residual, lease rate, money factor, miles/yr, etc.)?
Also, if you used the S-plan, why do you think you could have done better?
Any insights would be greatly appreciated!
Mar 30, 2004 (6:57 am)
word is out....we had little traffic on the 5 door until this past weekend. It seems that everyone is looking for the H/B right now. We also sold our one and only wagon to a guy who purcahsed a 5 door. his wife saw it while they were taking delivery of a Copper H/B and decided to buy it the minute she saw it.
Mar 30, 2004 (8:16 am)
Yesterday, I was talking with some of my co-workers that I usually don’t get to see that often and one of them is going to buy a new car soon. She was talking about the new Altima and I asked her if she had checked out the Mazda6 yet. She said she wouldn’t get a Mazda because she had a 626 before and the transmission blew out with 50,000 miles on it. I asked her if it was the 4 cyl and an automatic and she said it was. That is the 2nd person I’ve heard of that has written Mazda off completely because of the tranny issue with the older 4cyl 626 automatics. It’s a shame that the tranny issue is STILL hurting Mazda and that people are buying inferior products (Altimas) because of their past negative experiences with Mazda. I guess I can't blame her though, I'd be holding a grudge too if I had to buy a new transmission. Oh well.
Besides the rust, my Mazda6i manual is still doing good. Haven’t really had any mechanical problems and I have 8000 miles on it. Since the bus strike here in the Twin Cities, we have an extra car pooler and we’ve been using my car more because it’s bigger than the other car pool vehicles we use (a Civic coupe and a Corolla). There is plenty of power with the 6i manual, even with 4 people in rush hour traffic. I’ve been getting 23-25 mpg city driving, but I expect it to get better by a couple MPG once it gets warmer and the winter gas is gone.
Mar 30, 2004 (10:06 am)
It's important to remember that even with the S-Plan, numbers can be shuffled.
There is apparently some sort of lease special going on with the Mazda6 right now through the end of March (better hurry because it ends tomorrow) but I don't know the details and couldn't find them anywhere. Maybe Rich (audia8q) can elaborate a little more.
They originally came back to me with a monthly payment of roughly $430 per month for a 36/36,000 lease. Waaaay too high I told them because I had a quote from another dealer for $369 per month on a similar model that had more options and stickered for about $2500 more than the one we leased.
He took that back to the office and came back with $355.59 per month and we settled on that. I say we could have done better because our car was less expensive than the one we were quoted $369 on and therefore we should have been able to get the payment down to the vicinity of $340 per month.
But as I said, the salesman was very accomodating, cordial, and knew his stuff so we left it alone.
For your reference, the $369 per month quote included a $2500 lease rebate that I never heard of. Apparently the dealer I leased from knew what it was because they used it too. Hidden dealer cash from the factory maybe?
Anyway, here are the juicy details:
Sticker - $23,450
S-Plan - Don't have the exact number in front of me but it was something like $21,700.
Residual value - $11,021.50
I have no idea what some of the other numbers on the sheet mean and not one of them seems to have anything to do with the rate. I do know that the payment includes 10% PA tax instead of the usual 7%. Leases are taxed at a higher rate for some reason in this crazy state.
To buy at 0.0% for 60 months would have cost us about $400 per month so I'm pretty happy with our deal (if it really was a good deal). I am going to want a new car in 3 years (Probably buy that one though) so leasing was the way to go this time.
Plus we only had to sign about 5 docs. What a difference from purchasing!
Hope that helps!
Mar 30, 2004 (10:13 am)
Does anyone attach a car seat/base to the two inside latch hooks so the seat/base can be secured in the middle of the back bench?
We have the Evenflo PortAbout travel system and the stupid manual for the car seat base does not specify how many inches apart the hooks must be in order to safely secure the seat. I think it just says you can do it if the vehicle manual says you can.
The Mazda6 manual does state how far apart the hooks are, and not to attach a seat if the seat's manual says the distance is too far, so I guess that's half of the answer.
Right now the base is LATCH'ed to the hooks in the rear driver's side position and that's fine with me. However, I'd like to be able to move it to the middle if two passengers are tagging along.
Mar 30, 2004 (12:46 pm)
I don't have an exact answer for you, but this was my reasoning on my P5. The two inner latches were an inch wider than than using the outboard latches. For 1" I decided I'd mount it in the middle. Might be flawed logic, but I was in the same boat as you in trying to find information, so I went with my own thoughts. In the months of use I noticed no trouble. Now I didn't have an accident, maybe it would have been trouble then. But I never felt like I was endangering my kid.
BTW, which dealer did you use?
#16421 of 17829 Mazda6i rental car
Mar 30, 2004 (2:12 pm)
I rented a Mazda6i automatic for the past 3 days in the Phoenix area. I came away from that experience with a little less respect for this message board. For example, all I read here is that the 4 cylinder engine is underpowered when mated to the automatic. That is true only if you need to pass someone "right this second!". I found the car to have sufficient power for 90% of typical driving circumstances. Yet on this board, any reader will get the impression that it is dead slow and a waste of money.
My point is, too many comparisons are being made to BMW's, Audi's etc.. This is a nimble sedan with solid handling, great braking and separates itself well from the other common-class sedans. In my opinion, the 6i auto combination deserves more respect than it's getting. You want best speed, get the M6s. You want adequate speed, get the M6i. One has more "zoom" than the other, but they both have "zoom".
#16422 of 17829 accord7
Mar 30, 2004 (2:59 pm)
You will get the same impression from reading any of the Mazda6 boards. Several months ago we test drove a Mz6 I4 with MTX and another with ATX back-to-back and were quite happy with the performance of both of them. We also drove one MTX V6 and didn't find it to be any more suited to our purposes than the I4. We ended up buying a MTX Mz6 hatch with the I4. You really can't go wrong with any of the Mz6 engine + transmission combinations.
Mar 30, 2004 (4:51 pm)
What do u guys think of the manual transmission for the 6, particulary the 6s. Is it pretty crisp, or is it a typical shifter for sedans?