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"The 6 has a decent interior but it's a Playschool busy-toy compared to the 2005 Alty. (I'm sad to say.)" I just checked out the new Altima interior and I don't see what the big deal is. It appears that they changed the dash to a softer material (the way it should've been in the first place). Whoopde do! It still has the goofy recessed guages, and the nasty orange illumination that should be left back in 1986. The 6's interior is still better IMO. |
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My previous question piqued my curiosity about the evolution of the Mazda 4 over the last 10 years. This is what I came up with thanks to Edmunds. YEAR HP TORQUE WT. 94(626) 118 98( " ) 125 03(MZ6) 160 They must have tweaked something at the styling change in '98; it appears to be the same 2.0 L engine. The new 2.3L seems to have much more punch, although the MZ6i does weigh 242 lbs more than the 626 Fours of '98-'02, so there's more metal to push around. Someone pointed to the benefits of variable valve timing in a previous post. Can someone explain VVT to this ignoramus, & why it's a good thing? BTW, I had a look at the new Altima interior, and it is indeed much better. But did I notice in one of the photos FAKE WOOD trim around the shift boot? Say it isn't so Monsieur Renault... |
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| Soon after I bought my '03 6i, I noticed a significant design flaw with the interior: there's no "shelf" at the base of the window sill to rest your elbow on! I discovered this shortfall on my first Interstate trip, and it really drove me nuts. Also, the center arm rest is located WAY too low to be usable while keeping your right hand on the wheel. The '99 VW Jetta that I owned before this car didn't this problem. I'm 6'3" tall, and I really wish the seat went back farther -- I feel like my nose is in the sun visor! My other complaint is that the cloth upholstery is sorta rough, like a burlap sack. The stitching also seems a little slipshod in places. Other than that, the inside is decent, but not up to VW standards. | |
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If the competition in terms of interior quality is better than Mazda will refresh the interior. The Millenia was an upscale car and the 6 is not an upscale car. I have seen the new Pontiac G6 interior in pictures and I like it but I don't like back end of the car in terms of exterior design. On the subject of the Altima the interior maybe better but hearing about torque steer scares me. Mazda did refresh the 2000 626's interior from the 99 model. Maybe Mazda will do the same thing with the 6 when its up for a mid-cycle refresh. On a sour note I was looking at a local dealers inventory and they have 21 03 leftover 6's left. Maybe the weak intro for the 6 caused 6's to pile up on lots a little bit. Mazda did sell 4,121 6's last month and that was and 83% increase over the same time last year. Mazda seems happy with their sales numbers the last 4 months so I guess Mazda is on the right track. The 6 is still not enough to scare Nissan or Honda in the mid-size segment. However the 3 is enough do get Honda and Nissan back on their heels for a new Civic and Sentra I bet. Mazda seems good at selling small cars not really bigger ones. |
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I remember my 6 being much quieter than it is now. 12,000 miles later, I find it rather annoying. I think it may have to do with tire wear (16"), because I thought the car was very quiet when I bought it, certainly quieter than the '99 Protege I traded and the other half's '03 Protege5 (which was much quieter than the '99). Now, the Protege5 has become the quieter car. Another problem for anyone that lives in southern California is that our freeways are all grooved concrete, which is noisy (compared to asphalt) no matter what car you are in. To drown out the road noise, I have to turn up the radio to 12 or higher! The numerous rattles are also driving me crazy, especially how the front door panels rattle when the bass (non-Bose) is set any higher than 2 and the volume is any higher than 6. However, my door panels and dashboard have been removed and installed so many times that they just are not tight any more. |
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"Mazda did sell 4,121 6's last month and that was and 83% increase over the same time last year." True. However, it is a big decrease compared to the previous months: Dec '03 - 8,778 Nov '03 - 6,180 Oct '03 - 6,194 Sep '03 - 5,341 Aug '03 - 7,328 We'll see what trend happens in the upcoming months. Perhaps the Mazda3 is stealing sales... it outsold the 6 for January despite a relative lack of incentives. |
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| I don't know maybe the 3 is in fact stealing sales away from the 6. Though like I said before it could be the bad weather in the Northeast that contributed to weak Mazda 6 sales from previous months and the 3 could have possibly even sold more if not for the bad weather. However I guess we will have to see Feburary Mazda 6 sales to see what the deal is. | |
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If it's the tires wearing out that's causing the car to be noisier, then you can't really fault the car for that. IIRC, the Accord comes with the same Michelins that are on the 16's. People are always going to find some "deficiency" with ANY car and I mean ANY car. You just have to be realistic about things. The Mazda6 CANNOT have a VW interior, Lexus quietness, Buick ride quality, BMW handling, Altima 3.5L speed without the torque steer, Honda resale value, Mazda discounts, all at the same time. The Mazda6 is quick, it's fairly quiet, it rides nice, it handles well, and it looks good. Is it the best at everything? No. Is ANY car the best at everything? No. |
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I'm just assuming it's the tire wear. In the beginning, it could have just been that the '99 Protege was so much noisier in comparison. I really didn't start noticing the road noise until I started looking at replacements. Some of the other cars, such as the Camry Solara, were vault-like silent. As I said before, the real kicker was how much less road noise the Elantra has (the Hyundai's engine, on the other hand, could awaken the dead). What I do like is how quiet the 6 is in the rain. Those felt-like wheel-well liners make a huge difference. In previous cars (and the Elantra), the noise from the water splashing up into the wheel-wells was nearly unbearable. |
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about the technical specs of the 2 engines for the Mazda6. http://www.carseverything.com/content/article/1346.3/ |
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