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You are in the Mazda6
What is this discussion about?
Mazda MAZDA6, Sedan
Oct 18, 2003 (9:43 pm)
To clear things up... AutoAlliance International is the name of the Mazda/Ford joint-venture manufacturing facility located in Flat Rock, Michigan. It began production in 1987 of the MX-6 and was known as Mazda Motor Manufacturing (USA) Corporation (MMUC). In 1992, amid Mazda's financial turmoil, Ford agreed to purchase half of the plant and it became AutoAlliance International, Inc.
It became a union (UAW) plant in 1988. It has produced the 626, MX-6, Ford Probe, Mercury Cougar, and now produces the Mazda6. It will also produce the 2005 Mustang.
Oct 19, 2003 (3:02 am)
"AutoAlliance by jstandefer" noted that the Mazda6 has a union shop. This is part of the reason American built cars (also "transplants") have inferior quality problems. My brother has worked on the line building Ford Motor Company products for 32 years now. Seems where ever the union is in the auto industry they're more succeptable to quality problems. The Honda's Marysville plant is not unionized yet(family works there also) and they produce a very nice car - Accord.
If it doesn't have a "J" (Japan) in the first letter of its VIN#, then I may have to research that car a little more.
Oct 19, 2003 (6:39 am)
" But they were unable to get into - even after trying for 5 minutes - the Ford Fusion, Lexus LS430, Mazda 6, Saab9-3 and Seat Ibiza."
That's good news, but if the 6 is easily stolen it gives you a simple way to get rid of your rust problem with the insurance company covering the full price of the car for the 1st 18 months. You just can't win.
Oct 19, 2003 (6:41 am)
Maybe that is the way insurance works in Canada, but in the US it most assuredly does not cover the full price of the car, just its depreciated value.
#14702 of 17829 Make sure you get GAP insurance.
Oct 19, 2003 (7:32 am)
Then you are rid of it.
Oct 19, 2003 (7:55 am)
Maybe you could leave it unlocked with the keys in it.
Oct 19, 2003 (7:59 am)
at least wait til Mazda figures out what the fix is. You don't want another off the production line with the same problem (and a different option configuration).
Oct 19, 2003 (10:35 am)
I suppose it's easy to blame the UAW for any quality issues. But it's too hard to substantiate and prove. The fact is, however, that the Camry, Accord and Altima plants are not unionized; the 6 plant is. A bit compelling on its face, but nothing more...........it is also a fact that 6 prices have fallen drastically here in the Northeast. A 6i automatic can be had for $15k, at least based on newspaper ads. Mazda can't be making a profit with such discounts. It also can't be selling many cars.
Oct 19, 2003 (10:49 am)
Dealers set final selling prices, NOT manufacturers. As long as Mazda doesn't have to incentivize the vehicle, they couldn't care less what it sells for at dealerships. Its profit remains the same per unit.
Oct 19, 2003 (11:13 am)
If there are no incentives on the vehicle the prices wouldn't be so low. Dealers aren't in the business to give cars away. A 14,999 Mazda 6 has incentives somewhere. Marketing assistance, spiffs, volume discounts, dealer rebates. The dealer is gonna make his money on on end or the other. Or your neighborhood Mazda dealer will suddenly go Toyota.