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Mazda MAZDA6, Sedan
Oct 17, 2003 (6:55 am)
Well how many Mazda6 owners would trade in a Mazda6 and get something else from Mazda? I know if it were me, I wouldn't be willing to give the company another chance right away after having my almost brand new car rust.
That's the difference between you ad me, I guess. Nothing else in my price range matches my list of requirements from a car as well as the Mazda 6. Nothing is even remotely close! If my car were rusting noticeably (which, I'll point out, so far it isn't) I would still take whatever reparations Mazda offers, and then watch the market when I'm looking for my next new car in 2005/6/7 whenever. And if a Mazda suits my needs better than the others (which I don't doubt it will!), then another Mazda it will be.
As for discounts for previous owners - through all of June/July/August Mazda offered a Mazda Owner Loyalty Rebate of $1000 which I made use of. While it was the clinching factor for me to mkae the purchase AT THAT TIME, and not bother tow ait for a hatch, it was NOT a clinching factor in the selection fo the car. ie - I would have bought another car if it suited my needs better, even without the loyalty rebate.
Oct 17, 2003 (8:24 am)
If the 6 is scaring you off (for the rust issue), maybe save a few $$, and downsize slightly to the upcoming 3. Sounds like the Japanese plant hasn't had problems with the paint process, and hopefully the 3 won't suffer from this defect either.
Oct 17, 2003 (9:44 am)
Just because robots assemble cars these days does not mean the human error factor is out of the equation. Consider an example where a robot paints cars, and the technician is not very attentive, and the paint supply is low or not as pure, so a few thousand cars get sprayd with the bad paint. Even though robots did the work. The human error factor is in almost everything we do. Machines can be precise in doing tasks repeatedly, but when special situations arise, the human part is usually the one to make a mistake.
#14684 of 17829 Checking for Rust
Oct 17, 2003 (10:02 am)
Can someone please post again where exactly you need to look for the rust. I checked the doors and didn't see any, but I'd like it if someone could repost what we need to do and where to look.
Oct 17, 2003 (10:53 am)
houset: Look at the frame of the window and find the rubber molding that surrounds the border. Simply lift up the bottom of the molding with your fingers and look under it all across the channel. The two areas that are welded is where the rust would be forming. It may look like dirt and can be wiped off but it is surface rust coming from the inside of the welded seams. If you don't see any discoloration than you're OK for now. Also check the hinges on your doors as well as open the trunk and check by the weatherstrippng in the gutter area at the top part of the trunk. Not the trunk lid itself but the area bordering the trunk. I hope that makes sense and good luck!
#14687 of 17829 Talked to Mazda
Oct 17, 2003 (12:43 pm)
Well, I am in that unfortunate club of people who have identified rust on their vehicles. Mine is a Black 6i, built 03/03, bought 06/03 and currently about 6800 miles. After seeing the messages here, I did a quick check on my car and I found rust on the two front doors so I called up Mazda to complain. The guy I talked to acknowledged that they are aware of the "small" problem and said I should take the car to the dealer and that the dealership would repair the car.
I know I have to take the car to the dealer eventually but after all the discussions here, the talk of this being a small problem that the dealer would fix easily made me uneasy. What do you folks think?
Oct 17, 2003 (1:19 pm)
Personally I would take the fix but insist on it being done right. Having done a fair amount of body work and car painting in my life, I also believe that this is a problem that can be repaired by a good body shop and the repair will not be detectable if done properly.
I have a friend that had a Z28 with defective paint on the hood. He took it to a Chevy dealer who sent it to a body shop to paint the hood. He didn't like they work they did so he took it back and insisted that they do it over again. They did.
Just my $.02 ...
#14689 of 17829 More re: rust
Oct 17, 2003 (1:44 pm)
Here's a link to an article I found at the "Automotive Design and Production" website about Mazda's new painting process for the Atenza/6. Maybe the method wasn't used at Flat Rock and should have been, or maybe it just didn't work as well there as in Japan...
Oct 17, 2003 (3:17 pm)
I did a much more careful rust check this evening and am happy to say I found none at all. My 6S was built 12/02 as I recall. Could it be the earlier ones are less susceptible to the rust? Did they change the manufacturing process after the 1st of the year?