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2056 messages, Last post on May 24, 2009 at 6:31 PM
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| I dunno, a $24k Z with the 197hp engine (not that it's true) would be an attractive alternative to the rest of the crap out there right now. | |
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...if they choose to put out a $25k, 200hp "Z", they can pretty much punt the idea of being attractive to the mid-upper end market dominated by Porsche, BMW, Mercedes and the like. In order to compete in this segment, they will need to maintain some element of exclusivity. For example, I don't think Mazda could ever introduce an upscale version of the Miata, no matter how technically competent, that would get a prospective Boxter or M3 buyer to give it a second look. Nobody wants to buy an upscale performance car that can be had in a detuned version by the average Joe (or Jane) at a bargain price. I'm anxious to see the car, but it will also interesting to me to see how successful Nissan is in its marketing / business strategy with the new Z. |
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| The relative Bargain of a BMW 318i never seemed to take much steam away from the M3 shopper/buyer. | |
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While I think Nissan is going after the Boxster in terms of performance, do you really think that a prospective Porsche owner would really look at a Nissan? If I could afford a Boxster I'd get one. It's a Porsche after all =) However, if I could get a car that looks great and performs like a Boxster but would be inexpensive enough to allow me to get it and still eat on a daily basis, then I'm getting that one =) |
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killer, You've got a point with the 318i, but it wasn't very long-lived and never achieved much in the way of sales. I also believe that a major factor in BMW's decision to discontinue it was indeed image concerns: they had to cut too many corners to hit the 318 price target and feared the reputation of the higher end models would be adversely affected as a result (in the US, at least). A German business associate of mine also pointed out that BMW didn't introduce a full $50k version of the M3 to the states until 2001 because it was thought that US buyers were too image conscious to pay that much for a "3". Prior to 2001, we got a "cheapie" M3 compared to the less image conscious German market. Charlie, Actually, I guess I could afford a Porsche without giving up too many meals. But will I buy one?? Probably not. The M3, C32 and even S2000 are more likely candidates, given my mood on any given day. By the way, image consciousness is not confined just to the Porsche wannabes -- the 2002 redesign of the 911 front end was supposedly done to distinguish it from the Boxter so as to give prospective 911 buyers a bit more exclusivity. Heaven forbid that your $120k 911 turbo is mistaken for my $45k Boxter from the front!! My point was that Nissan can probably shoose to do whatever they want with the new Z: go after the high volume, relatively lower price market segment with a good, but not exceptional product. Or, go after the lower volume, higher end market segment with a more exclusive product. I just don't think they can do both, at least not immediately upon introduction. |
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| I also saw rumors for a 3.5L turbo Z making 335 hp. Is it just me or does that seem too low a hp estimate? If the n/a 3.5L is pumping out 280-300 hp i would expect a twin turbo to make at least an additional 100 hp compared to the n/a version. If a turbo Z does come out I would expect closer to 400 hp. | |
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| Could be a single turbo with low boost, to save the engine from wear and tear. | |
| Based upon prototype photos, does anyone else think the interior styling is a bit overdone? While the car's exterior really appeals to me, I'm not sure I could handle the "loud" interior. Too much simulated metallic-finish trim. | |
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What about the 3000GT SL? The automatic did 0-60 in 8 or 9 seconds, but it didn't seem to hurt the VR-4's image. Then of course there is it's Stealth twin, with a 10 second base model... |
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Nissan just released these shots to the media of the production North American Z car!
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