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Sep 19, 2013 (9:46 am)
It seems that the 2001 Acura TL had a really high rate of failure in the transmission and that a recall was issued. I've been told by a lot of people that if you are driving on the original transmission, you are a ticking time bomb.
He told me that the dealer said his car doesn't need a new transmission, but I couldn't confirm that in conversation with the dealers. In addition the recall was issued 5 year before he became the owner so I have a hard time believing that he received any mail from the dealer asking him to come in to inspect the issue (he claims this is the case). Part of the problem is that we have a bit of a language barrier to cross. He admitted he can't read English very well. I believe he could have very easily gotten a letter from the dealership that said "hey, it's time for your transmission servicing" and he would have just understood that to mean they were inspecting the transmission to see if it was impacted by the recall when, in fact, all they were doing was draining the transmission fluid etc.
The exact recall verbiage is as follows:
APR 15, 2004
2002 Acura TL
ON SOME MINI VANS, SPORT UTILITY AND PASSENGER VEHICLES, CERTAIN OPERATING CONDITIONS CAN RESULT IN HEAT BUILD-UP BETWEEN THE COUNTERSHAFT AND SECONDARY SHAFT SECOND GEARS IN THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, EVENTUALLY LEADING TO GEAR TOOTH CHIPPING OR GEAR BREAKAGE.
GEAR FAILURE COULD RESULT IN TRANSMISSION LOCKUP, WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
ON VEHICLES WITH 15,000 MILES OR LESS, THE DEALER WILL UPDATE THE TRANSMISSION WITH A SIMPLE REVISION TO THE OIL COOLER RETURN LINE TO INCREASE LUBRICATION TO THE SECOND GEAR. ON VEHICLES WITH MORE THAN 15,000 MILES, THE DEALER WILL INSPECT THE TRANSMISSION TO IDENTIFY GEARS THAT HAVE ALREADY EXPERIENCED DISCOLORATION DUE TO OVERHEATING. IF DISCOLORATION EXISTS, THE TRANSMISSION WILL BE REPLACED IF DISCOLORATION IS NOT PRESENT, THE DEALER WILL PERFORM THE REVISION TO THE OIL COOLER RETURN LINE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 21, 2004, FOR PILOT, ODYSSEY, AND MDX OWNERS. OWNERS OF THE ACCORD VEHICLES WILL START RECEIVING LETTERS ON JUNE 28, 2004, AND ON JUNE 29, 2004, FOR OWNERS OF THE TL AND CL VEHICLES. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT HONDA AT 1-800-999-1009 OR ACURA AT 1-800-382-2238.
Potential Units Affected:
HONDA (AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO.)
#3596 of 3637 Re: Update [acemanhattan]
Sep 19, 2013 (10:58 am)
Call Honda and see if yours is one of the affected TLs (the recall says "on some"). If so, can a service department tell if the recall servicing has been done?
My son bought a Buick LeSabre that had a very large recall for something involving the manifold (I'm not even sure what that is!). We contacted Buick before we bought it, and discovered that that vehicle was not among the affected ones. Ten years later he's still driving it.
Sep 19, 2013 (12:05 pm)
I found out that in 2006, when the vehicle had 42k miles, the revision to the oil cooler return line was made. This means that they assessed the problem and then decided that a transmission replacement wasn't necessary. This is good news. The bad news is that there are instances of people who had this revision done still ending up with a failing transmission. I am not sure how often this occurred, I just know that it has.
#3598 of 3637 Re: Recall [acemanhattan]
Sep 19, 2013 (1:08 pm)
Ace - can the seller provide documentation showing required regular transmission fluid service on the car - like at least every 30k miles? This is key to the transmission achieving long life. If he had his maintenance done at a Honda or Acura dealer, it might be in their system. Keep in mind, with any vehicle that has this much mileage, how long major components will hold up is anyone's guess.
#3599 of 3637 Re: Update [acemanhattan]
Sep 30, 2013 (1:27 pm)
I have a deceased friend who died in one of these when it "locked up" on the freeway and caused a bad crash. This was many years ago, when Honda still disavowed any defect in their cars, because "it just couldn't happen to Honda! We're perfect in every way."
The recall came out later, finally exonerating my friend from "driver's error". She didn't sue - she was dead.
My point is: Honda is overrated. They're good, but not always the best, and not perfect. The make a great small engine though.
#3600 of 3637 Re: Update [acemanhattan]
Oct 03, 2013 (2:35 am)
#3601 of 3637 Hello everyone
Oct 04, 2013 (3:14 pm)
Hi everyone who has sent a post to on this site, can somebody answer my question here ? Since everybody has complained about(Toyota, Honda, Nissan,Ford,BMW , now which car would somebody advise me to buy now. Any help will be appreciated.
#3602 of 3637 Re: Hello everyone [mehis]
Oct 05, 2013 (6:09 am)
I own a Nissan Altima and I would never go back to what I used to buy which was Ford. The problem is that the most of the people that write on this sight are the people that have a problem with the type of vehicle they have. You do not see the good stuff all that often. My Nissan is 2008 and I absolutely love it. My next car will definitely be a Nissan! I have 2 friends and a family member that have Nissans and they won't buy anything but Nissan. I have numerous friends and family members that own Toyota and they only buy Toyota because of their great experiences with them. Hope this helps! Good luck!
#3603 of 3637 Re: Hello everyone [mehis]
Oct 06, 2013 (4:57 am)
I completely agree with brendapi. I have a 2010 Altima Coupe with 62000 miles on it and I have had Zero problems with it. My gf bought a 2012 Altima sedan a year ago and she loves it. Great car... Great gas mileage...
#3604 of 3637 Re: Hello everyone [mehis]
by Michaell@Edmunds HOST
Oct 07, 2013 (8:57 am)
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What are you driving now? Do you like it?
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