Last post on Dec 08, 2013 at 7:13 PM
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Chevrolet Malibu, Nissan Maxima, Mazda MAZDA3, Nissan Altima, Honda Accord, Honda Civic, Hyundai Elantra, Lexus IS 250, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#3323 of 3640 Re: Deciding between Toyota Prius and Honda Civic Hybrid... [smelterjones]
Jun 12, 2013 (7:23 am)
Where to start. First off, of the repairs likely needed for an older car, a battery is the least of your concerns. There are so many much more expensive parts that will need replacing, like, for example, Tires, struts, and coils. Second, $6200 seems excessive for a Civic with that age and mileage. Check used car pricing for your area on Edmunds and Kbb. Finally, have ANY vehicle, even a certified one, checked out by an independent mechanic first. These are both very reliable cars but you should still get them checked. We bought a certified car awhile back that needed new tires. Not bald, so passed the inspection, but definitely worn.
You don't say the price they are asking for the Prius. That could be a good bet because it will definitely be great on fuel economy. But check out its typical used prices too. Did you drive both of them? I imagine the Prius will not sit on the lot very long.
#3324 of 3640 Re: Looking for a good salesman's car that has good / mileage..... [evolk1]
Jun 12, 2013 (7:25 am)
What about an older large Buick, LeSabre or Lucerne? You're used to a Crown Vic, you will fit in them, they are cheap and cheap to repair. Generally reliable too.
#3325 of 3640 Re: Looking for a good salesman's car that has good / mileage..... [evolk1]
Jun 12, 2013 (8:35 am)
-Foreign vs domestic really depends on location. Most any metro area nobody will ever say a word. Out in the boonies, particularly midwest....someone might hold it against you. I used to do a lot of consulting work for companies that were GM suppliers...and I always had a GM vehicle available for when calling on them. It was just common courtesy in my book for clients that made up a big part of my income at the time.
-Avalon is a pretty good car. Drives as good/better than a CV and very reliable.
-If an Avalon is a reliable car...a 300C is very close to the opposite. I see the attraction (big, rwd, comfortable) but I'd take another CV before a 300C if I was going to be piling the miles on.
-Reliable transportation you can keep for awhile...I think you can get into something decent for $12k-$15k. I wouldn't go much under $10k and expect much.
-Leasing is rarely a good financial decision EVEN if you can deduct the payments. I can make the numbers work on a $40k vehicle where you invest the cash savings....but otherwise it rarely works out to your advantage. You can buy a $1,000 car and write-off $0.56/mile for tax purposes....and that generally is the way to go on sub $25k vehicles.
Most of the newer Camrys are also pretty roomy...they've gotten bigger and bigger. I had to spend some time in a Lincoln Towncar recently and I wasn't really impressed with the front seat comfort. I'm about 6'2" as well but not as horizontally challenged. I find most any SUV to be far more comfortable than a sedan. Also check out 2010+ Taurus.
#3326 of 3640 Re: Deciding between Toyota Prius and Honda Civic Hybrid... [suydam]
Jun 12, 2013 (12:06 pm)
Where to start. First off, of the repairs likely needed for an older car, a battery is the least of your concerns.
Not on a Hybrid, where battery packs can cost thousands of dollars.
#3327 of 3640 Re: Looking for a good salesman's car that has good / mileage..... [sebring95]
Jun 12, 2013 (12:12 pm)
I find most any SUV to be far more comfortable than a sedan. Also check out 2010+ Taurus.
I'd personally look at a 2008-2009 Taurus or Sable. You can get them CHEAP (since they are the old body style), but actually they have more room and the same powertrain than the 2010 Taurus. Most have Sync hands-free, etc.
This car has, by far, the biggest interior of any sedan I've ever been in. You should be able to score a very well-equipped Taurus with under 50,000 miles for $11k-13k depending on equipment. For the record, I'm a big guy (6'5" 210) and like the car as well. The only thing I'd count against it is the lack of a telescoping wheel on the 2008 model my parents have.
#3328 of 3640 Re: Deciding between Toyota Prius and Honda Civic Hybrid... [thegraduate]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Jun 12, 2013 (12:14 pm)
Also, probably worth checking our Civic Hybrid IMA Battery Problems discussion. IIRC, replacing the IMA battery has caused fuel consumption issues for some owners. Not sure, as i'm going off memory, but worth checking out.
#3329 of 3640 Re: Noisy [igozoomzoom]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Jun 12, 2013 (12:17 pm)
I also had a '92 Accord EX that was Frost White with Blue interior....it looked like a smurf had exploded inside the car,
Made me giggle out loud.
Couldn't remember the exact timing of in-/out-of-fashion colors... my youth is a blur of harvest gold, olive green, peach, and teal-is-the-new-black.
#3330 of 3640 Re: Deciding between Toyota Prius and Honda Civic Hybrid... [thegraduate]
Jun 12, 2013 (1:38 pm)
True, but the Prius battery has a great record. I didn't know Hondas made hybrids that far back!
#3331 of 3640 Thanks for input all. What about a Ford 500 or was that a....
Jun 13, 2013 (4:55 am)
...or was that just a crossover from the previous Taurus to the new Taurus?
#3332 of 3640 Re: Deciding between Toyota Prius and Honda Civic Hybrid... [suydam]
Jun 13, 2013 (5:49 am)
Their first hybrid was the Insight, in the late 1990s. They debuted a Civic Hybrid in 2003.
Battery replacement isn't about whether or not it's faulty, it's about the wear. Just like your cell phone battery eventually won't hold a charge for as long as it once did, hybrid battery packs also deteriorate over time.