Last post on Dec 05, 2013 at 12:05 PM
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Chevrolet Malibu, Nissan Maxima, Mazda MAZDA3, Nissan Altima, Honda Accord, Honda Civic, Hyundai Elantra, Lexus IS 250, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#3299 of 3637 Re: Small Size Sedan [qbrozen]
May 31, 2013 (11:43 am)
The US News ratings are based on the JD Power VDS, which rates 3-year old cars. Thus none of the cars the OP is looking at are included in the VDS yet. The Mazda3i is sort of (2010), but has a new powertrain since then. The alternative is the JD Power Predicted Reliability rating. I'll take CR's over that any day. But given all of these cars except the Mazda3 are new since the 2011 MY, there's not a lot to go on for predicted reliability except the automaker's track record. I'd say Honda has the edge there, of these cars, but then you'd have to put up with the Civic, which is no longer at the top of this class as it once was.
May 31, 2013 (2:22 pm)
I drive these for a living now and I personally would not get the Focus, or Fiesta, for that matter...there are better vehicles out there like the Mazda3 or the Sentra. Hate the auto tranny on these Ford products and the styling, inside and out, is a bit dull. The new Forte is probably going to sell very well and I have seen a couple down here. The Civic is o k, a bit bland looking but reliable and "cheap to keep". Personally, I'd buy the Elantra right now, hands down. It does everything well and looks pretty cool...that's the vehicle I'd buy right now if in the market. Think my '06 Civic looks better than the new one actually.
Go rent them all and see which "fits", then you'll really know!
#3301 of 3637 Re: Rental Cars [sandman_6472]
May 31, 2013 (3:17 pm)
I think reliable, good mpg, and "cheap to keep" is what the poster is looking for. That would be the Civic, although new Mazda may beat it in fuel economy.
#3302 of 3637 Re: Rental Cars [sandman_6472]
May 31, 2013 (5:42 pm)
I was going to mention the Focus transmission. I know a few people with these and they dislike the automatic and do not get the mileage they expected. One guy I know has one as a company vehicle and his previous was a '12 Impala which he said got better mpg than the '13 Focus!
#3303 of 3637 Re: Rental Cars [sebring95]
Jun 01, 2013 (3:53 am)
Focus seems to be consistently rated well for mpg. Actually, though, looking at Consumer Reports data, the Mazda 3 has fared the best of the group in both reliability and now mpg with the new engine.
#3304 of 3637 Re: Small Size Sedan [backy]
Jun 01, 2013 (5:40 am)
You will have to get a used one to get under your $20K limit but the best option for fuel economy will be a VW Jetta or Golf TDI. It is a good hwy cruiser and handles well. Those diesels are good for 200K+ miles and sounds like a good fit for you.
#3305 of 3637 Re: Small Size Sedan [biker4]
Jun 01, 2013 (6:59 am)
In the same vein, a used Prius will get you the mileage and reliability you seek.
#3306 of 3637 Re: Small Size Sedan [biker4]
Jun 01, 2013 (8:37 am)
The OP specifically said "new" otherwise I would have mentioned cars like the Golf/Jetta TDI that get excellent highway FE. But as you noted, it's above the stated price point.
#3307 of 3637 Re: Small Size Sedan [backy]
Jun 02, 2013 (7:05 pm)
But given all of these cars except the Mazda3 are new since the 2011 MY
I agree, which is why I wouldn't have labeled any of them "unreliable" at this point.
Jun 03, 2013 (7:25 am)
I love Honda design, style, ergonomics. The Civic and Accord both are very comfortable for me and nice drivers.
My 3 complaints are pretty indemic to the entire Honda line - 1) They are noisy at highway speed. Mostly in the the rear, and from the tire noise, which is transmitted up through the rear suspension. In the back seat, you can't converse comfortably, it's so noisy at 70mph. The Odyssey is the worst, because there is yet a 3rd seat.
2) The Air Conditioning is insufficient, noticeable in the southwest now. Compared to a Toyota or Ford and some GM cars, (but not all), it will not keep you cool on a hot sunny day. That's a deal breaker for me. It's mostly the lack of volume rather than temperature.
3) It's a little issue, but the Hondas steer a little too stiffly for my pleasure. Magazines love it, but I like a responsive (which it is), but easy steer.
The Noise and A/C keep me from buying one or recommending one, despite their superior looks and cabin design.
And, of course, you can't dispute their bullet-proof reliability.
My choice therefore? Toyota Camry, Ford Fusion or Mazda 3, Hyundai Elantra.