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Chevrolet Malibu, Nissan Maxima, Mazda MAZDA3, Nissan Altima, Honda Accord, Honda Civic, Hyundai Elantra, Lexus IS 250, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#3025 of 3637 Re: To hosts of this forum from YAT [yatittle]
Jan 22, 2013 (3:38 pm)
yatitle: Honda's new CVT for the 2013 Accord is getting very positive reviews from everyone. Here's just one example from Car and Driver:
"But it’s the CVT’s tuning that makes the Accord feel fleet. The typical rubber-band delay has been minimized, and the throttle responds curtly when you ask for acceleration (although sometimes with some audible transmission whine at high revs). In mountain snakers as well as on city streets, the CVT works so efficiently that it all but disappears, and you never notice the lack of a manual control...."
The acceleration of the the 4 cylinder with the CVT is quick—less than 8 seconds 0-60.
You'll get better mpg with the 4, obviously, and so if you don't need sports car-like power that's probably the model you should go for.
Let us know how it goes at the test drive!
#3027 of 3637 Trying to chose sporty sedan...
Jan 25, 2013 (6:25 pm)
So I've test driven a ton of cars, most of which 5 minutes or so which truly doesn't give enough time for a fair analysis of each. The Mazdaspeed3- the most boy-racer, worst gas mileage, least supportive seats, roughest riding, but by far the best performing. The Jetta GLI- love turbo power and 2.0T, easy to tune (APR/Revo/GIAC), great handler and ride, least visually appealing, spotty VW reliability, first 3 services free. Both of these require premium fuel. Lastly, the Honda Accord Sport sedan 6 speed- great handling/ride combination, super solid feeling, lots of standard features, gem of an engine, only color for me is gray, most grandpa-ish, slowest (0-60 6.7 1/4 15.393mph- which aren't bad), best mpgs, most proven reliability, regular unleaded, not much available to boost performance. Payments on all three would be $375-385 on 66 mos buying at invoice (less 1500 on the MS3) no money down. If I could find a low mileage 06-09 Jetta GLI 6 speed, I would have bought it already. I love that car. It's a 3rd car, daily driver for me, take my wife and boys places on occasion. We already have a 2012 Ford Fusion appearance pack car we love and a 2003 Suburban Z71.
#3028 of 3637 Re: Trying to chose sporty sedan... [redlinez]
Jan 25, 2013 (6:51 pm)
Did you test drive the WRX and Focus ST? Where would they slot in?
#3029 of 3637 Re: Trying to chose sporty sedan... [redlinez]
Jan 25, 2013 (8:32 pm)
since you are willing to consider used, how about a 335i?
A civic si would be a far better choice than the Accord if "sporty" is your priority.
#3030 of 3637 Re: Trying to chose sporty sedan... [qbrozen]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Jan 25, 2013 (8:41 pm)
Jetta GLI shouldn't be that hard to find..
#3031 of 3637 Re: Trying to chose sporty sedan... [kyfdx]
Jan 26, 2013 (8:13 am)
The GLI base car is what I'm looking for. The WRX is out of my budget range and I thought the Focus ST was way to hyperactive. It was all over the place on acceleration (not spinning), the turbo didn't even really kick in until 3500-4000 rpms, and they're all loaded up with options. I hate the Civic Si's dash and the throttle overrun is terrible. If it weren't for those two things, I'd probably go with a Si, that and I don't like the newest styling.
The used car I'd buy today if I could find one, is a low mileage 06-09 Jetta GLI 6 speed. The wife hates GTI's, so can't go there again.
#3032 of 3637 Re: Trying to chose sporty sedan... [redlinez]
Jan 26, 2013 (10:34 am)
I like the VW offerings until I joined a V-dub forum.
$500~ timing belt
poor quality fuel pumps, frt suspension, interior etc etc
So I bought a Cruze ECO 6sp
Cast Iron block
Quality build and good skidpad figures.
132+ top mph 32psi t.p. from the 15# boost 2000rpm~ has real seat-of-the-pants power.
I've hit 125~ twice. This thing is Quick!
The ability to get 50mpg by hypermiling is pretty neat.
Goodyear Assure-Max(sp?) LLR tires are v. stiff & max of 51# cold press gives tidy handling.
As always YMMV
#3033 of 3637 Re: Trying to chose sporty sedan... [drvette]
Jan 26, 2013 (9:33 pm)
Just drove all three today. The Accord sport is out because it's just a great driving large car, we already have a 12 Fusion we love. I really love the Speed3's power and just how raw the driving experience is. Great brakes and steering. But the interior feels cheaper than the Vdub and after visiting the really annoying Mazdaspeedforum, it's plagued with interior rattles and noises. Haven't read that about the MKVI Jetta GLI. I drove the GLI I would buy today, the base car on 17" wheels. It just really lacks the low end torque the MKV had. Very clean interior design, feels way more upscale than the Mazda. Obviously two very different cars. I can get the 13 Speed3 for $1200 less than the GLI, but VW offers .9% for 66 mos, so the payment is only $10 more for the GLI. Really tough decision here......
The Cruze is a nice looking car, rented one once with the turbo automatic. Just not in the same league powerwise and I think they're over-priced just as the Sonic.
#3034 of 3637 Re: Trying to chose sporty sedan... [redlinez]
Jan 27, 2013 (4:00 am)
Can you drive a manual?
If so, you might want to consider a Civic Si.