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Chevrolet Malibu, Nissan Maxima, Mazda MAZDA3, Nissan Altima, Honda Accord, Honda Civic, Hyundai Elantra, Lexus IS 250, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#2178 of 3637 Re: Sonata ltd vs Accord Ex-l please help [backy]
Apr 27, 2011 (12:34 pm)
Actually, though, the current generation "Accord" is actually a model down from the Accord that's currently sold in Japan. They re-badge the Japanese Accord as the Acura TSX here in the U.S. So, if you want the same quality as the last generation Accord, you actually need to get a TSX.
I'd recommend a 1 year old CPO TSX for the same price as a new Accord EX.
* An Accord EX-L is $23,700 for the 4 cylinder model, and $25,600 for the V6. (truecar)
* A 2010 CPO TSX with under 20K on it is $25K/27K(4cyl/6 cyl)
The difference in first year registration and insurance fees will essentially make it a wash, since we're talking about a $1300-1400 difference. Actually, if you factor in depreciation and the fact that it's a whole trim level up, it's a clear win of a couple of thousand dollars in your favor of you intend to keep it for as many years as you did your last car.
Just buy the *real* Accord and enjoy
#2179 of 3637 Re: Sonata ltd vs Accord Ex-l please help [plekto]
Apr 27, 2011 (1:02 pm)
So, if you want the same quality as the last generation Accord, you actually need to get a TSX.
Considering that this was the same situation in the last generation of the Accord, this doesn't make much sense. The "Japanese Accord" was the TSX then too.
#2180 of 3637 Re: Sonata ltd vs Accord Ex-l please help [tallman1]
Apr 27, 2011 (4:44 pm)
They refreshed the Accord in Japan. This is the same model that they sell in the U.S. as the TSX.
The old TSX was based upon an Accord as well.
The current U.S. Accord is based upon an entirely different car a model down from the current Accord in Japan. For such a small price difference, it's penny wise and pound foolish to not get the CPO TSX instead. Because it's a step up from the previous generation Accord as you'd expect (and much nicer overall, as well)
Apr 27, 2011 (5:35 pm)
Just remember, Acura's call for premium fuel so be prepared. Not a big deal for some...but a conssideration for others!
#2182 of 3637 Re: Premium [sandman_6472]
Apr 27, 2011 (7:34 pm)
20 cents a gallon out of $4-$5 a gallon isn't worth really contemplating, to be honest.
#2183 of 3637 Re: Premium [plekto]
Apr 28, 2011 (3:31 am)
Thanks for all of the responses. I think Acura is a great car but It's out of my price range and I don't want to buy a used car. My choice comes down to either the Accord or the Sonata. The fact that the current Accords are not considered as good a car as the earlier generations is a very real concern. I'm still stuck now but I do appreciate the responses.
#2184 of 3637 Re: Premium [sjack1]
Apr 28, 2011 (6:12 am)
You kept your last car for 11 years and 240K miles. Why wouldn't you consider an ex-program car or similar with 3-6K on it for the same price as a "new" Accord? As long as it's never been a rental, and is only a few months old, you'll never know the difference between brand new.
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&csDlId=&csDgId=&listin- - - - gId=59562450
With only 3600 miles on it, it's their loss of 5K in depreciation and taxes.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/used-car-deals-program-cars-rental-cars-salvag- - - e-titles.html
Program cars are perhaps the best hidden gem in the industry that most people don't know about. They represent the best of the best CPO models as they were never used by a rental agency and were scrupulously maintained and used by some executive of the company or similar.
Usually there are only a few hundred every year in the entire U.S., as well. They go quickly and are usually incredibly rare to actually find for sale.
#2185 of 3637 Re: Premium [sjack1]
Apr 28, 2011 (8:33 am)
Don't worry about pressure to consider something else. No matter what advice people ask around here, there is always someone who wants to introduce something else into the mix... no matter how clear you make it.
One consistent thing most people say about mid-sized sedans these days is that you really can't go wrong with any of them. There are plenty of people who shake their heads whenever they hear someone complain about the Accord's alleged "slip in quality." There are others who say that the (fill in the blank) generation of Accord was the worst because they had a bad experience.
Likewise, there are plenty who shake their head when they hear about the past reputation of anything made by Hyundai. And there are others who think their old model was the best car they ever owned.
As I said before, ANY car can have problems. If I were in your shoes, I'd take reliability out of the mix at this point and really examine which car you'd rather drive for ten years. Perhaps that may help you know what will really make you happy, be it handling, comfort, looks, etc. The more I read and hear, the less I'm concerned about the reliability of most anything in this segment.
#2186 of 3637 Re: Sonata ltd vs Accord Ex-l please help [plekto]
Apr 28, 2011 (9:24 am)
I really think Acura's perception as a luxury brand is overrated. They are nothing more than a glorified Honda and they do not offer much more in refinement or detail than a Honda does.
Brands like Lexus and Infiniti are much different than their non-luxury counterparts.
While an Acura is an excellent car and they do have good build quality, the price they command is not warranted, IMO.
#2187 of 3637 Re: Sonata ltd vs Accord Ex-l please help [aviboy97]
Apr 28, 2011 (10:54 am)
In Japan, all Hondas are sold as Hondas. They split the line into two for the U.S. market. But the cars are the same for the most part. The current Accord is the Accord in Japan and the TSX in the U.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Accord_%28Japan_and_Europe_eighth_generation%- - - 29
This is what the rest of the world gets when they buy an Accord.
Since 2007, this is what we've had as the "Accord" in the U.S. It is a step down from the Accord in Japan and feels like a slightly cheaper car than the previous generation Accord to many.
Honda Inspire "Accord" EX - 190 HP 7000, 162 lb·ft 4400 rpm
Honda Accord "TSX" - 201 HP 7000 rpm, 170 4300 rpm
Better interior and better engine as well, as expected.