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#1755 of 1950
Re: Mazda3 or Honda Civic? [vslacks] by rik4
Jan 25, 2009 (12:15 pm)
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Replying to: vslacks (Jan 25, 2009 11:16 am)

i would add the new malibu you can get deals and lots of options are std on them. i would also add a mini. but be careful if you test drive one you will buy it. seems 4 drs are in order so a mini clubman . great resale value in a small bmw brand. lots of fun to drive. and exceptional mpg. also big discounts on altima.
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Re: Mazda3 or Honda Civic? [vslacks] by backy
Jan 25, 2009 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: vslacks (Jan 25, 2009 11:16 am)

If you can wait a bit, the 2010 Mazda3 will be out soon and is a re-design with a lot of improvements.
 
If fuel economy is real important to you, the Civic will top the Mazda3 there. But IMO the Mazda3 is more fun to drive, and as a hatchback much more versatile than the Civic. The test drive should help a lot. Be sure to drive the cars over the roads you would normally commute on. I've found both cars have quite a bit of road noise, probably moreso on the Mazda3 with the low-profile tires. I recently drove a 3 for a few days on LA freeways and would describe the ride as "punishing".. not pleasant to put up with every day. If you want a quieter ride, you could go for something like the Malibu, or maybe the Accord or Fusion. Camry and Sonata would have softer rides also, but given what you have and are looking at I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be happy with their handling.
 
I am curious why you aren't considering the Rabbit or Jetta this time? Also have you considered getting a portable nav unit? Since the car will be used mostly for commuting, it doesn't seem you would need the nav much. That would reduce the price quite a bit and give you a better choice of cars.
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Re: Mazda3 or Honda Civic? [backy] by vslacks
Jan 26, 2009 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 25, 2009 12:23 pm)

Hi -
 
Thanks for the responses. I hadn't considered the Malibu - perhaps out of some fear of buying a Chevy right now given the state of American auto makers.
 
Yes, I think I probably will look at a portable nav system so that it can be used in both cars. I'm an electronics gadget guy so I think I'm probably compensating for the step down from the Audi with as many gadgets as I can
 
Perhaps I should look more closely at the Rabbit. Frankly, I've been a bit disappointed in the reliability of our Jetta which is probably why I've shied away from them.
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Re: Mazda3 or Honda Civic? [rik4] by vslacks
Jan 26, 2009 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: rik4 (Jan 25, 2009 12:15 pm)

I did consider the Mini - in fact, it was the first car I considered. My main concerns are that they can get pretty expensive once you start tacking on the options and there's little to no negotiating leverage given how popular they are.
#1759 of 1950
Re: Mazda3 or Honda Civic? [vslacks] by thegraduate
Jan 27, 2009 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: vslacks (Jan 26, 2009 12:28 pm)

Trust me, you're not the first person who has been let down by VW/Audi reliability. I hope you have better luck with your Audi than the VW.
 
Personally, I like both the 3 and the Civic (I'm a 2-Accord owner here, but am not overwhelmed with Honda quality as of late - never been stranded, but had a few niggling issues with my 2006 Accord; misaligned gas-flap from the factory, inside rear-view mirror glass wasn't attached, and actually fell out of the housing, needed a new center console lid because the fabric came unattached around 33,000 miles, and a new CD changer was necessary at 37,000 miles; all covered by warranty).
 
Have you test-driven anything yet?
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buying a used car by steve8731
Feb 11, 2009 (11:20 am)
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Hello, I'm new to car buying (I've never done it) and can use some advice. I am 27 and about to buy my first car. I just got my license and am trying to figure out what I can afford and what to get. I've heard that a car payment should not exceed 20% of your monthly salary, so I was thinking a car that costs between $9,000 and $11,000 would be best for me. Hoping for a monthly payment of $200 - $250, these are my choices that are in the same tier.
 
1. post-2006 Honda Civic Coupe
2. 2006 Mazda 3
3. 2005-06 Nissan Altima
 
Any advice would be great
#1761 of 1950
Re: buying a used car [steve8731] by backy
Feb 11, 2009 (3:46 pm)
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Replying to: steve8731 (Feb 11, 2009 11:20 am)

It looks like you could go with either a compact or mid-sized sedan, so here's some other choices in your price range of $10-11k:
 
* 2006-7 Mazda6i
* 2005 or 2005.5 VW Jetta (get one VW Certified, with warranty if at all possible)
* 2006 Fusion or Milan
* 2007-8 Sonata
* 2007-8 Optima (but be careful, most do NOT have ABS/ESC)
 
I've seen all of these in your price range, and they are all pretty reliable and safe.
 
If you go with a Civic, try for a 2006+ (I know, hard to find under $11k). They are much improved in crash safety over the pre-2006 Civics, and all trims have ABS standard. A used Mazda3i is a good choice, but be sure it has the optional ABS and side airbag package.
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Re: buying a used car [backy] by steve8731
Feb 11, 2009 (5:17 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Feb 11, 2009 3:46 pm)

Thanks for the info. I was really leaning towards the Honda when I came across the Mazda3. For some reason, I don't like American cars. Whether it be the style, reputation, or the negative feedback I have gotten from friends, I just don't see myself driving one. Here is a little extra info about my position...
 
I am 27 with a medium-high risk credit score. The most I can honestly afford would be $250 a month. I am worried about insurance, but gas should not be a problem. (I live less than 1 mile from work.) Is it even feasible to get financed for a car that much at a dealer or should I look towards another lender. I have already been turned down by Citibank via www.lendingtree.com and I fear that asking for money I might not get will do more harm than good. My girlfriend told me that dealers will only finance a car that is 5 years old or newer. Is there any truth to that?
#1763 of 1950
Re: buying a used car [steve8731] by backy
Feb 11, 2009 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: steve8731 (Feb 11, 2009 5:17 pm)

No, dealers will finance anything they sell as long as your credit is good enough. Credit is tighter these days. The turn-down by Citibank isn't a good sign. But keep trying.
 
If it were me and between a pre-2006 Civic or a 2006 Mazda3, I'd take the Mazda3 in a second. A whole lot more car.
 
Another thought, if you continue to have trouble securing a loan, is wait until you can save enough cash for a decent car. It might not be a $10k car, maybe a $3k car, but it will get you to/from work and on dates with your girlfriend (or maybe she can drive ). If you have a little cash saved now, you could save enough for such a car in less than a year. As an example of what you could get for that kind of money, my oldest son drives my 2000 626 ES now as his get-to-college car. It has a private-party value of about $3000, has 102k miles on it, but it runs strong, everything works, body and interior are still good.
 
Another route many young people take is to borrow money from parents or relatives. You can give them a higher interest rate than they could get on savings, and you get a car. If you do that, draw up a formal loan agreement though--treat it just as seriously as a bank loan.

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