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What is this discussion about? Chevrolet Malibu, Nissan Maxima, Mazda MAZDA3, Nissan Altima, Honda Accord, Honda Civic, Hyundai Elantra, Lexus IS 250, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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#1751 of 1950
Re: Buying a car, need help [dusneed] by backy
Jan 24, 2009 (6:15 pm)
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Replying to: dusneed (Jul 09, 2008 5:03 pm)

I want something that is a good compromise between Cost, Fuel Economy, Reliability, Insureability, and style.
 
I agree with previous posts that the most practical thing to do would be to get a car you can pay cash for. You should be able to find a good small economy car for your $4500. The $300+ you save each month in car payments (and extra gas and insurance) because you didn't buy a $20,000 car like a used Maxima can be used for many things, including having some cash on hand for the inevitable repairs an older car will need.
 
However... you said style is important to you. And it is your money. So a compromise would be a small, stylish, economical, reliable, fun-to-drive, and relatively low-cost car such as a used Mazda3i. Other options would be a used Civic coupe or maybe even a Celica (my all-time favorite car from my 20s). Since you are 22, are single (yes?), and live in NYC, a small car would be your best bet vs. something like a Maxima or Altima. You might consider a small hatchback, for their versatility if not their style. You could even pick up a new hatch like a Yaris or Versa for around $13k if you get a stick, or you could get a used Mazda3, Rabbit, Elantra, Matrix/Vibe etc.
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Re: Buying a car, need help [backy] by bhmr59
Jan 24, 2009 (8:50 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 24, 2009 6:15 pm)

Stick shifts are a bummer in city driving...and I thought that when I was in my 20's with "city" driving which is nothing like NYC driving.
#1753 of 1950
Re: Buying a car, need help [bhmr59] by backy
Jan 25, 2009 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Jan 24, 2009 8:50 pm)

Yes, but for a 22 year old who probably won't be driving the car in town much (due to great public transport in NYC), a stick might be fine. I've seen lots of taxi drivers with sticks in the congested cities of Europe and Asia, and they seem to handle the sticks with no problem in that kind of environment. It's a way to save some bucks--up front, and on gas (especially in town), and on maintenance down the road.
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Mazda3 or Honda Civic? by vslacks
Jan 25, 2009 (11:16 am)
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We currently have a 2004 Audi A4 and a 1999 Jetta GLS TDI. We've just recently paid off the Audi and the Jetta is in need of a new clutch, new brakes, and it tends to stall or not start with increasing regularity. So, my wife is going to take the Audi and I'm going to get a new car that will mostly be used for commuting.
 
I'm considering the Mazda3 hatchback Grand Touring model or the Honda Civic EX-L. Though either would be a step down from my Audi, I'm treating myself to the bells and whistles so I don't feel too deprived I'd like to get the nav system on either one, though it looks like finding models equipped with nav is difficult.
 
Anyone have any thoughts on these two cars? I'm going out this afternoon to do test drives.
#1755 of 1950
Re: Mazda3 or Honda Civic? [vslacks] by rik4
Jan 25, 2009 (12:15 pm)
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Replying to: vslacks (Jan 25, 2009 11:16 am)

i would add the new malibu you can get deals and lots of options are std on them. i would also add a mini. but be careful if you test drive one you will buy it. seems 4 drs are in order so a mini clubman . great resale value in a small bmw brand. lots of fun to drive. and exceptional mpg. also big discounts on altima.
#1756 of 1950
Re: Mazda3 or Honda Civic? [vslacks] by backy
Jan 25, 2009 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: vslacks (Jan 25, 2009 11:16 am)

If you can wait a bit, the 2010 Mazda3 will be out soon and is a re-design with a lot of improvements.
 
If fuel economy is real important to you, the Civic will top the Mazda3 there. But IMO the Mazda3 is more fun to drive, and as a hatchback much more versatile than the Civic. The test drive should help a lot. Be sure to drive the cars over the roads you would normally commute on. I've found both cars have quite a bit of road noise, probably moreso on the Mazda3 with the low-profile tires. I recently drove a 3 for a few days on LA freeways and would describe the ride as "punishing".. not pleasant to put up with every day. If you want a quieter ride, you could go for something like the Malibu, or maybe the Accord or Fusion. Camry and Sonata would have softer rides also, but given what you have and are looking at I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be happy with their handling.
 
I am curious why you aren't considering the Rabbit or Jetta this time? Also have you considered getting a portable nav unit? Since the car will be used mostly for commuting, it doesn't seem you would need the nav much. That would reduce the price quite a bit and give you a better choice of cars.
#1757 of 1950
Re: Mazda3 or Honda Civic? [backy] by vslacks
Jan 26, 2009 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 25, 2009 12:23 pm)

Hi -
 
Thanks for the responses. I hadn't considered the Malibu - perhaps out of some fear of buying a Chevy right now given the state of American auto makers.
 
Yes, I think I probably will look at a portable nav system so that it can be used in both cars. I'm an electronics gadget guy so I think I'm probably compensating for the step down from the Audi with as many gadgets as I can
 
Perhaps I should look more closely at the Rabbit. Frankly, I've been a bit disappointed in the reliability of our Jetta which is probably why I've shied away from them.
#1758 of 1950
Re: Mazda3 or Honda Civic? [rik4] by vslacks
Jan 26, 2009 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: rik4 (Jan 25, 2009 12:15 pm)

I did consider the Mini - in fact, it was the first car I considered. My main concerns are that they can get pretty expensive once you start tacking on the options and there's little to no negotiating leverage given how popular they are.
#1759 of 1950
Re: Mazda3 or Honda Civic? [vslacks] by thegraduate
Jan 27, 2009 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: vslacks (Jan 26, 2009 12:28 pm)

Trust me, you're not the first person who has been let down by VW/Audi reliability. I hope you have better luck with your Audi than the VW.
 
Personally, I like both the 3 and the Civic (I'm a 2-Accord owner here, but am not overwhelmed with Honda quality as of late - never been stranded, but had a few niggling issues with my 2006 Accord; misaligned gas-flap from the factory, inside rear-view mirror glass wasn't attached, and actually fell out of the housing, needed a new center console lid because the fabric came unattached around 33,000 miles, and a new CD changer was necessary at 37,000 miles; all covered by warranty).
 
Have you test-driven anything yet?
#1760 of 1950
buying a used car by steve8731
Feb 11, 2009 (11:20 am)
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Hello, I'm new to car buying (I've never done it) and can use some advice. I am 27 and about to buy my first car. I just got my license and am trying to figure out what I can afford and what to get. I've heard that a car payment should not exceed 20% of your monthly salary, so I was thinking a car that costs between $9,000 and $11,000 would be best for me. Hoping for a monthly payment of $200 - $250, these are my choices that are in the same tier.
 
1. post-2006 Honda Civic Coupe
2. 2006 Mazda 3
3. 2005-06 Nissan Altima
 
Any advice would be great

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