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Sedans Help Me Choose!
1950 messages, Last post on Nov 23, 2009 at 6:58 PM
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Replying to: backy (Mar 23, 2008 7:16 pm) The Genesis is a good idea, but being a first-year model, I don't know how well that would go-over.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 23, 2008 6:07 pm) Even a Bugatti gets 23 mpg on the highway. Gas mileage plummets if they drive in town or in traffic. I just can't believe an inefficient engine like the Northstar in a heavy vehicle like the Caddy will get 27 mpg on the highway, unless they are crawling at 30 mph. Call me a doubting Thomas.
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Mar 24, 2008 5:38 am) Doubt away... they drive on the 70 MPH Interstate 65 every other day to come check on my great-grandmother (she'll be 96 in April but is now in poor health) from about 40 miles away. No skin off my nose whether ya believe it or not, because I'm not the one buying the car. I've got two! And, if you haven't been following along, this will not be an "Around Town" car; my mom works within walking distance to her job, so her car won't be used to commute. My dad commutes in the Civic. This is for trips from the coast (where the folks live) back to Birmingham, a trip they make every couple of weeks. For that, the Civic just doesn't cut it... Dad turns 50 in April, and my mom has been 39 for 12 years, and they've always been tight with money on cars. Now they want to splurge on a comfy highway cruiser for under $30k, and frankly, the year-old DTS fits that pretty well. Are they dead set on it? Not in any way. They're just considering it among lots of other choices out there.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 24, 2008 7:21 am)
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Replying to: ronsmith38 (Mar 24, 2008 7:46 am)
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The Nissan Altima wins. We are in the market for a new vehicle. Orignally we loved the Altima but started to look everywhere else too. We tried American cars also. But now we have a problem. We want a black car. Nissan and black...eh not the best combo. (I have their black truck - frontier). Now, it gets worse - we want a black car with blond leather interior AND a 4cyl. And I tossed the whole 6 or 4 thing around many many times too...just not worth it after driving the powerful nissan 4 cyl. So - that leaves us with only TWO cars within 400 miles. I've read unbelievable deals regarding the 2.5 s with the sl package, many 1k sub invoice pricing WITH additional percs (all weather mats , etc etc) BOTH cars are scratched. The one is beautiful for the most part with the bumper being scratched very low about 8" wide with tiny 1cm scratches, about 15 of them. They called and said they buffed most of them out but there are still a few left. The other, their teenaged car washer decided to use the same water he has been using all day with the same rag and dragged the rag all over the car. It's VERY noticable , at least to me. Not to mention, there is some bug gunk that it looks like they couldn't or didn't care to remove. I know that after 4 or 5 washes the car will look like this no matter how much care I take with Nissans VERY soft paint. But do we want to accept this new? The first, they will sell at invoice. The last, they will sell for $200 under. I tried to get them down, they let us walk out ...even when I told them don't expect us to call - please don't lose a sell if someone is interested...go ahead and sell it. We had another car in the game but it's pretty far away and only a little bit better of a deal and is not the exact color she wants. I expected at least a phone call before they closed. Neither called. They know they are the only game on the block and that we will only take black or will just save another 10 k and head into the luxury lines and start this whole buying process over again. (although I don't want to do that, I'm not a big fan of forking over $600 per month on a car payment...we are lookign at only $350 for the Altima as it is) What would you do? I don't want to lose the car, but at the same time I don't want muscled into the car. We NEED another car very soon or, we need to fix an older car for inspection. (we are selling it outright, not trading it in) |
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Replying to: sincraft (Apr 08, 2008 7:56 pm) One thing you might do is try to find out when they (or another dealer) will be getting another black Altima in, and hold out for that one (even rent a car or buy a beater to use in the meantime if you must have a car now). You are spending a lot of money on this car--why settle for less than what you want? |
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Replying to: sincraft (Apr 08, 2008 7:56 pm) If you are asking what i would do. I would ask them to fix the cars. If they couldn't I would walk away and see how my Honda dealer is doing. |
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Replying to: sincraft (Apr 08, 2008 7:56 pm) I'm on my second Nissan with the dark gray color, and it holds up very well. I love the new Altima, BTW. It betters my '03 Maxima in every way. You will really, really enjoy the car.
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Replying to: perna (Apr 09, 2008 10:39 am) I broke down today and told the dealer nearest to us with the car washed fine imperfections all over that we wanted the car IF they could wash it again properly thus removing the bug goo, dirt on the wheels / front grill etc. And have a detail guy go over it an hit some of the trouble spots. That's all I was asking for. The salesperson calls me back and says his manager is telling him that they no longer are offering me the deal, they don't want to work with me. Yesterday I asked for another measly $100 off which would take this car down to $300 under invoice. They blew us off. Hard. So I'm writing a letter to Nissan. I write them when I have good experiences, but rarely write about the bad ones because I've already moved onto trying to solve the problem at hand. I will however make an exception for these folks. I stopped using their service dept for the same reason, horrible service. I later saw one of the asst service manager guys at another dealer I was doing computer work for, and he said that the owner and manager force their hands to do alot of shady things there. Then you talk to the dealers around and they have NO idea that the CA emissions cars that are being sold in like 19 states now get 1 mpg less! They actually believe the sticker is correct. Those EPA guys already butt heads with the tree huggers, if they labeled the stickers at 1mpg less they would be DEAD. It's fear that is keeping us a nation from moving ahead due to political correctness. Hey I want clean to breath air, but I don't want to be lied to about MPG nor do I want to pay for a hoax which has been disproving in almost every country by scientists far superior to ours that AREN'T being paid off like ours are. *gets off soapbox* |
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