- #1672 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [thegraduate]
by kdshapiro
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Mar 23, 2008 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 22, 2008 7:21 pm)
Sure a used Caddy with 15K miles makes a new Avalon look like a great deal. Any user car makes any new car the deal of the century. I would soon as drive around in a new Avalon than a used DTS :blush.
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- #1673 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [kdshapiro]
by thegraduate
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Mar 23, 2008 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Mar 23, 2008 5:45 am)
The Avalon XLS was still more expensive than the Caddy... that's the problem. They were trying to stay under $30k, and that cant do that without stepping into a base model XL.
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- #1674 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [thegraduate]
by kdshapiro
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Mar 23, 2008 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 23, 2008 6:59 am)
Your parents will wind up by feeding the Caddy with gas, the Avalon will be more fuel efficient. That might tip the scales a bit.
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- #1675 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [kdshapiro]
by thegraduate
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Mar 23, 2008 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Mar 23, 2008 7:41 am)
After talking to my dad's aunt and her husband (who had a 2005 DeVille and now have a 2007 DTS), they always get about 27 mpg highway with the Northstar. Considering our V6 Odyssey got about 24-25 mpg highway, that sounds good for them, considering it has a V8, and will be a "trip car" first and foremost.
I understand the Avalon is a very good car, but the Cadillac costs less, and delivers more. It's just that simple. What doesn't help is local Toyota dealers' reputation for not being customer friendly.
I'll keep you all posted as the shopping continues - they are actually not looking to make their purchase until the fall, so other vehicles will come and go from the shopping list I'm sure before then.
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- #1676 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [thegraduate]
by backy
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Mar 23, 2008 (7:16 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 23, 2008 6:07 pm)
Since they are looking to buy this fall and don't mind spending nearly $30k for a car, and seem to want a luxo-cruiser (ala DTS), they should take the Genesis for a spin. The V6 will start under $30k.
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- #1677 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [backy]
by thegraduate
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Mar 23, 2008 (8:44 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Mar 23, 2008 7:16 pm)
Well, after hearing about problems in a co-worker's VeraCruz (numerous trips to the dealer for things like O2 sensors, electrical bugs, etc) mom and dad aren't as gung-ho about Hyundai as they were. After being burned by 2 Chryslers that spent week after week at a dealer (under warranty, thankfully), they are nervous about buying a car after hearing bad stories. My dad told me like this: "If there's one like this, there's two, and I'll have the luck to get it." Now, he knows all companies have bug-y cars, but hearing one from personal experience is just a little scary for them.
The Genesis is a good idea, but being a first-year model, I don't know how well that would go-over.
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- #1678 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [thegraduate]
by kdshapiro
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Mar 24, 2008 (5:38 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 23, 2008 6:07 pm)
After talking to my dad's aunt and her husband (who had a 2005 DeVille and now have a 2007 DTS), they always get about 27 mpg highway with the Northstar
Even a Bugatti gets 23 mpg on the highway. Gas mileage plummets if they drive in town or in traffic. I just can't believe an inefficient engine like the Northstar in a heavy vehicle like the Caddy will get 27 mpg on the highway, unless they are crawling at 30 mph. Call me a doubting Thomas.
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- #1679 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [kdshapiro]
by thegraduate
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Mar 24, 2008 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Mar 24, 2008 5:38 am)
Even a Bugatti gets 23 mpg on the highway. Gas mileage plummets if they drive in town or in traffic. I just can't believe an inefficient engine like the Northstar in a heavy vehicle like the Caddy will get 27 mpg on the highway, unless they are crawling at 30 mph. Call me a doubting Thomas.
Doubt away... they drive on the 70 MPH Interstate 65 every other day to come check on my great-grandmother (she'll be 96 in April but is now in poor health) from about 40 miles away.
No skin off my nose whether ya believe it or not, because I'm not the one buying the car. I've got two!
And, if you haven't been following along, this will not be an "Around Town" car; my mom works within walking distance to her job, so her car won't be used to commute. My dad commutes in the Civic. This is for trips from the coast (where the folks live) back to Birmingham, a trip they make every couple of weeks. For that, the Civic just doesn't cut it... Dad turns 50 in April, and my mom has been 39 for 12 years, and they've always been tight with money on cars. Now they want to splurge on a comfy highway cruiser for under $30k, and frankly, the year-old DTS fits that pretty well. Are they dead set on it? Not in any way. They're just considering it among lots of other choices out there.
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- #1680 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [thegraduate]
by ronsmith38
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Mar 24, 2008 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 24, 2008 7:21 am)
You mentioned previously that they were looking at the 2008 Taurus. We just bought a 2008 Sable Premier. It may be a few $ more that the Taurus, but we liked the front end and interior better on the Sable. So far we like the car very much. We paid about $25000 out the door! It has ESC, memory adjustable pedals, backup sensors and Satellite radio as options. We are a bit older than your folks, and like the conservative styling of this car. The Command seating make getting in and out a breeze.
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- #1681 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [ronsmith38]
by thegraduate
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Mar 24, 2008 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: ronsmith38 (Mar 24, 2008 7:46 am)
I'll mention the Sable. Dad isn't too fond of all the chrome on the Ford.
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