- #1669 of 1950
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Re: Consumer Reports vs. Edmunds [skyblu88]
by thegraduate
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Mar 17, 2008 (11:10 am)
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Replying to: skyblu88 (Mar 17, 2008 10:48 am)
Mazda 3 Prices Paid and Buying Experience
Try poking around this board, asking whatever questions you have; you might find some answers! It'll let you know what others are paying.
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- #1670 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [thegraduate]
by bhmr59
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Mar 22, 2008 (7:13 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 10, 2008 12:01 pm)
Grad.
Tell them to test drive an Azera and see it they like it. One of my buddies has one and it's a fantastic car. '07 Limited w. Ultimate pkg. Sticker was $31K+. He paid $25700 last April + $189 doc fee + TTL. Great car, great highway cruiser.
Maybe they'll like it, maybe they won't...but they won't know unless they test drive it.
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- #1671 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [bhmr59]
by thegraduate
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Mar 22, 2008 (7:21 pm)
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Mar 22, 2008 7:13 pm)
I've mentioned it to them more than once. My folks are open to nearly everything except Chrysler products (burned by them twice). At the moment, a local Cadillac dealer has two Cadillac DTS sedans, 2007 models, both around 15,000 miles, for $28,990. That, compared with a Toyota Avalon XLS quote I received for $29,598 + $399 doc + tax ($1400 or so) makes the Cadillac look like quite a deal.
Trust me, nothing too much is ruled out yet, except the VeraCruz.
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- #1672 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [thegraduate]
by kdshapiro
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Mar 23, 2008 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 22, 2008 7:21 pm)
Sure a used Caddy with 15K miles makes a new Avalon look like a great deal. Any user car makes any new car the deal of the century. I would soon as drive around in a new Avalon than a used DTS :blush.
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- #1673 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [kdshapiro]
by thegraduate
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Mar 23, 2008 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Mar 23, 2008 5:45 am)
The Avalon XLS was still more expensive than the Caddy... that's the problem. They were trying to stay under $30k, and that cant do that without stepping into a base model XL.
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- #1674 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [thegraduate]
by kdshapiro
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Mar 23, 2008 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 23, 2008 6:59 am)
Your parents will wind up by feeding the Caddy with gas, the Avalon will be more fuel efficient. That might tip the scales a bit.
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- #1675 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [kdshapiro]
by thegraduate
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Mar 23, 2008 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Mar 23, 2008 7:41 am)
After talking to my dad's aunt and her husband (who had a 2005 DeVille and now have a 2007 DTS), they always get about 27 mpg highway with the Northstar. Considering our V6 Odyssey got about 24-25 mpg highway, that sounds good for them, considering it has a V8, and will be a "trip car" first and foremost.
I understand the Avalon is a very good car, but the Cadillac costs less, and delivers more. It's just that simple. What doesn't help is local Toyota dealers' reputation for not being customer friendly.
I'll keep you all posted as the shopping continues - they are actually not looking to make their purchase until the fall, so other vehicles will come and go from the shopping list I'm sure before then.
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- #1676 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [thegraduate]
by backy
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Mar 23, 2008 (7:16 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 23, 2008 6:07 pm)
Since they are looking to buy this fall and don't mind spending nearly $30k for a car, and seem to want a luxo-cruiser (ala DTS), they should take the Genesis for a spin. The V6 will start under $30k.
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- #1677 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [backy]
by thegraduate
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Mar 23, 2008 (8:44 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Mar 23, 2008 7:16 pm)
Well, after hearing about problems in a co-worker's VeraCruz (numerous trips to the dealer for things like O2 sensors, electrical bugs, etc) mom and dad aren't as gung-ho about Hyundai as they were. After being burned by 2 Chryslers that spent week after week at a dealer (under warranty, thankfully), they are nervous about buying a car after hearing bad stories. My dad told me like this: "If there's one like this, there's two, and I'll have the luck to get it." Now, he knows all companies have bug-y cars, but hearing one from personal experience is just a little scary for them.
The Genesis is a good idea, but being a first-year model, I don't know how well that would go-over.
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- #1678 of 1950
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Re: Comfort, Power, Bang for the Buck [thegraduate]
by kdshapiro
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Mar 24, 2008 (5:38 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 23, 2008 6:07 pm)
After talking to my dad's aunt and her husband (who had a 2005 DeVille and now have a 2007 DTS), they always get about 27 mpg highway with the Northstar
Even a Bugatti gets 23 mpg on the highway. Gas mileage plummets if they drive in town or in traffic. I just can't believe an inefficient engine like the Northstar in a heavy vehicle like the Caddy will get 27 mpg on the highway, unless they are crawling at 30 mph. Call me a doubting Thomas.
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