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#1398 of 3640 Next car after Audi S4
Feb 16, 2007 (2:21 pm)
I drive a 2001 Audi S4 sedan which I purchased in 2004. Its been an absolute joy to drive and own, esp considering that I upgraded from a Honda Civic! I wasn't aiming for a high performance car and was looking at the A4, but got a really sweet deal.
My concern now is with rising maintainence costs as well as the possibility of turbo's going bad, which are notoriously expensive to repair on the S4. So I'm looking for options to replace my car sometime towards the middle/end of 2007, since it still has a decent resale value.
My commute is in the bay area on 101, so its not like I get to drive the car the way its meant to be. Thus, my requirements for the next car are-
- only buying used, I've learnt my lesson, there's no point paying the premium for a brand new car. I'm looking for a car at most 2-3 years old.
- budget is 15k-20k
- want a good mix of performance and luxury. Can't hope to match Audi level interiors but I want to see what my options are.
- names which I will not consider -
BMW: overpriced brand snobbery, and they're too damn common.
Toyota/Lexus: no connection at all to the road, ride is too soft, soulless whales on wheels.
American cars: because of reliability/build quality
- I do want a good built in navigation system, preferably with voice activation. I keep getting lost all the time in SF and this would really be helpful.
- Given my commute and driving, I'm not sure I'll feel the loss of AWD/RWD if I go for FWD. The only time I really get to enjoy the S4 is on freeway merges and passing in high gears. And 250bhp is rather common these days.
- again because of the traffic, I'd rather have an Auto/step/triptronic thingy. I wish I could have a true manual transmission mated to electronic shifter which is the best of both worlds, like DSG/F1, but they're not that common. How does CVT compare?
- Audi is not exactly a chick magnet , its a bit too understated. BMW is on the other end of the spectrum - flash and yuppiness personified. I'd rather have something which is cool yet tasteful.
A few cars which I have in mind are the 2006 Altima, Acura TSX, 2004 Audi A4, Legacy GT.
My ideal car would have the Acura TL satnav, Audi's quattro and interiors, 25mpg, reliability of a Honda, and sex appeal of an Aston Martin Let me know if these are unreasonable demands!
#1399 of 3640 Re: Next car after Audi S4 [mrcrispy]
Feb 16, 2007 (3:02 pm)
Sounds like you could use a TL, an 04 or an 05. The interior is very nice, get 30 mpg on the highway (mine does anyway) very relable.
#1400 of 3640 Re: Next car after Audi S4 [frisconick]
Feb 16, 2007 (3:04 pm)
plus I live in San Francisco, so I know your commuting needs.
#1401 of 3640 I'm getting an IS250
Feb 16, 2007 (4:30 pm)
I'm selling my BMW 323i sedan (2000) and buying an IS250 automatic RWD. I'm selling the 323i due to the dreaded collapse of the auto trans that can happen at any time ($5000 repair).
I test drove the IS250 - in a word a fantastic car. 18" wheels without sports suspension, but it handles better than my BMW and incredibly smooth. I only put 8000 mi/yr on a car so I think (hope) that it'll last at least 10 yrs without any major problems.
The IS has more than enough power as long as you're not a full-throttle speed demon like the IS350 guys. Believe me, you can lose your license just about as fast with the IS250 as the 350. Test drive it and you might be sold on it as I was.
#1402 of 3640 Re: I'm getting an IS250 [bmw55]
Feb 16, 2007 (5:53 pm)
Which year IS250 are you replacing the 323 with? I'm now looking at The TL as well as TSX, G35, Altima and IS250.
#1403 of 3640 Re: I'm getting an IS250 [mrcrispy]
Feb 17, 2007 (6:39 am)
I'll be getting an '07 IS250 with the Premium pkg with additional items (Premium Package includes:
- Auburn bird's-eye maple interior trim
- Perforated leather-trimmed interior
- Heated and ventilated front seats
- Bi-xenon High-Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps and Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS)
- 18-in Alloy Wheels with Summer Tires
- Preferred accessory package:
- Rear spoiler
The MSRP for this car is $35,577 (it includes around $3440 of options). Unfortunately I live in Tennessee where the great deal the California guys & gals are getting are nowhere to be found.
#1404 of 3640 Decisions, Decisions
Feb 17, 2007 (10:06 pm)
My head is spinning. I thought I had it all figured out. I was set to buy the Passat 2.0T. Read Consumer's Report and it was the top pick for performance. I love the way it handles, especially the great turning radius, and it is very comfortable. Just as I was about to plunk down my $$, CR came out with another report and the Passat scored "poor" in reliability. Figured I better go back to the drawing board. Drove the 4 cyls in the Accord Acura TSX, and Camry. The Camry XLE doesn't have fold down seats, so that's a negative. The cheaper models do, go figure. But I like the classier interior. Accord is okay, but the interior appointments are a bit cheesy compared to the Passat and it is less stylish IMNSHO. The Acura TSX has a hard ride and is more expensive. I'm stumped. Should I get the car that appeals most to me or heed the CR warning?
#1405 of 3640 Re: Decisions, Decisions [keelime]
Feb 18, 2007 (8:31 am)
The Passat has, far and away, the nicest interiors of the cars you mentioned. As cor Cr's report, I haven't seen it, but I am a bit surprised - the Passat has been a "CR pick" for the last 5 years or so (if my recollection serves).
Anyway, I would consider what CR says - what, in particular, do they say is problematic? How long would you stick with the car - beyond the warranty period?
#1406 of 3640 Re: Decisions, Decisions [keelime]
Feb 18, 2007 (10:16 am)
VW in general has low reliability, IMO. I now someone who owned a 2000 Passat and swore never to lease one again due to her experience with low reliability (at least she got to give it back!).
I also know someone who worked at VW until 2006 and as an insider, also depicts many, many unhappy customers due to this exact problem.
Just my personal knknowledgen this manufacturer. Not a papanaceabut just a tid bit.
#1407 of 3640 Re: Decisions, Decisions [taxesquire]
Feb 18, 2007 (2:35 pm)
They don't say what the problems are. THE CR report was a very short preview of their upcoming Annual Car Issue which is due out later this month.