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#420 of 464 Help for poor gasmileage! by rollandalong Feb 07, 2006 (4:43 pm)
I have a 2004.5 Kia Spectra 2.0 with the automatic transmission. I am only getting about 25-26 mpg on highway trips. The car only has 36,000 miles on it. The dealer put it on the tester and found nothing wrong with it. Has anyone had similar problems and found an answer? Thank you. Replies to this message: sheerwater (Feb 09, 2006 8:20 am) natta1 (Feb 10, 2006 8:22 am) benji1 (Mar 31, 2006 11:27 am)
#421 of 464 Re: Help for poor gasmileage! [rollandalong] by sheerwater Feb 09, 2006 (8:20 am)
Replying to: rollandalong (Feb 07, 2006 4:43 pm) I get the same gas mileage and I am the first owner. from what I have heard the gas mileage in these cars are much worse than what the sticker says anyway. I get maybe 21-22 city and 25-26 highway. it is still better than the pickup I used to have that would get 15 in the city and 19-21 on highway. They test these cars on an ideal route with very controled acceleration and probably limited speeds to get the higher numbers that the sticker says.
#422 of 464 Re: Help for poor gasmileage! [rollandalong] by natta1 Feb 10, 2006 (8:22 am)
Replying to: rollandalong (Feb 07, 2006 4:43 pm) I was getting 24.5-25.5 overall until recently. On my normal commute I spend about ten minutes on the interstate and 10-15 minutes in "city" type traffic. I just replaced my air filter and have already seen a 1-2 mpg improvement. Not much, but something. By the way, I have 19,500 miles on the car.
#423 of 464 2004.5 Spectra's driver's lower seat cushion is crumbling by spectraman Feb 20, 2006 (7:51 am)
Well gang, I think I've identified the first real problem my Spectra's in the midst of. It's currently got 19k verrrrryyyy trouble free miles on it so far!   My slowly evolving problem is that the driver's front seat lower cushion foam is starting to crumble right where my bum's left cheek sits.   I'm not a little person, but I'm not a overly large (IMHO) either. I'm 6', and weigh about 230 lbs.   It all started many months ago when I started finding errant bits of foam under the seat, in plain view when you open the door. During the summer, I just swept these up when I'd sweep my car (which is often). During the colder winter months when I haven't been sweeping, I can now see just how much foam is actually crumbling and falling down!   The lower seat cushion is noticeably starting to collapse on the side closest to the doorsill. I am now able to start feeling the narrow hard metal support/bar through the seat cloth. The bar is very narrow, so I surmise what has happened is that it has "sawed" its way through the foam cushion, with the bits of foam being deposited by gravity right where I see them when I open the door. The bar runs from the front to the back of the entire lower seat cushion on the far left side. There's a mirror-image bar on the right side too... but for some reason that side of the cushion isn't having the same problem.   There is still foam between the seat cover and the bar.... but for how long?   I have *never* had a seat do this to me in any vehicle I've driven, and I've been about the same size/weight for 15 years now. This is obviously an example (one of few I've seen) of poor design on KIA/Hyundai's part.   Is anyone else out there experiencing this problem? What do you folks think my chances of getting KIA to replace or repair the seat is? I'm sure that this is going to be a continuing problem of degradation until I won't be able to be comfortable in the seat anymore...... which is a shame because the high quality fabric and comfortable seats was a major selling point for me with my car!!!   So if you've had a similar experience with ANY KIA seat, post it here along with any remedy KIA made.   Thanks!!   -SM Replies to this message: backy (Feb 20, 2006 8:00 am)
#424 of 464 Re: 2004.5 Spectra's driver's lower seat cushion is crumbling [spectraman] by backy Feb 20, 2006 (8:00 am)
Replying to: spectraman (Feb 20, 2006 7:51 am) There is obviously a problem with the seat, and the car is under warranty. I don't know why there would be any issue in getting the seat fixed under warranty.   FWIW, there is no sign of any problem with the seat cushions on my 5-1/2 year old Elantra, they are still firm and supportive. I took a friend of mine for a drive yesterday (he owns a BMW 325ix), and he commented after a couple of minutes, "These are really good seats!". So this may not be a design problem with your seat but a bad batch of foam. OTOH, I weigh 170, not 230.

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