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Kia Spectra, Sedan
#216 of 464 Re: Hey, spectraman, are you still feeling [iluvmysephia1]
Feb 07, 2005 (7:40 am)
Hey there ILMS1!
Oh.... I'm most certainly driving my Spectra and enjoying it. It's pushing 7k miles now, and still no problems other than the oft-reported KIA owners lament of less-than-stellar fuel milage.
I would be interested in knowing what KIA's final reaction will be to the report. I suspect that they'll make the necessary tweaks that IIHS suggested, and try to get them into the 2006 or 2007 model years.
However, since the car passed the government ratings, I think that KIA more than likely thinks their liability needs are covered. If no actual statistical injury data appears, then they'll most certainly not plan on any retro-fitted safety upgrades for the 2004.5-2005 models (my opinion).
In the meantime, I made one small adjustment by moving my above-the-shoulder seatbelt adjuster down a couple of notches to make sure the belt is a tad more snug on my shoulder. The video seems to show the belt anchor being quite a bit higher than the dummy's shoulder.
Additionally, my seat is positioned back further than the starting point of the dummy's seat in the video.
It's my hope that those two factors MAY help my impact "score" should I ever have to put the Spectra's offset crash protection to the test!
Feb 07, 2005 (10:05 am)
drive carefully and enjoy your Spectra. You're right, Kia is probably fine with the government results and will not recall what they've built. As to whether they'll make a design change from here on out remains to be seen. We may never hear about it if they do, too.
#218 of 464 Re: Good move... [iluvmysephia1]
Feb 07, 2005 (10:25 am)
You'd hear about it when the IIHS does a re-test, which Kia would request after a design change.
Feb 08, 2005 (11:54 am)
I've got more than 9500 miles on my Spectra EX. It's got a manual transmission, and the factory options included alloy wheels, cruise control, and floor mats.
I really like the solid feel of the structure and doors. It handles well, and is pretty quiet. My only problem thus far is that I can't fill up the tank without having gas overflow out of the pipe, which gets gas on the paint, and sometimes on my hands or shoes. I assume this is a defective valve or something in the pipe to the gas tank - whatever it is that signals the gas pump to stop pumping. I'll live with it until the next oil change.
The only thing missing in the car is ABS, a standalone option that every car in Phoenix dealer inventories lacked. I also yearn for a smoother shifter. But overall, I really like the car.
As for the new engines in joint development with other firms, they can't come soon enough. The Spectra has a modern engine with competitive output, but most Hyundais and Kias have subpar engines. The Sorento is a good example - a 3.5 liter V6 that produces less than 200 HP is absurd.
Feb 08, 2005 (12:40 pm)
go to your Kia dealer and explain the fuel overfilling problem. It sounds like your Spectra may need a new valve. There may even be a TSB out for it already.
#221 of 464 Another positive review of Spectra from AutoMedia
Feb 11, 2005 (6:56 am)
3 excerpts from a much longer article....
"Inside and out, styling on the Spectra leans toward conservative with a contemporary flourish, paying homage to both European and Japanese design influences. While remaining a technical compact, the Gen II offering is a good deal more accommodating with respect to room for people and cargo. A healthy 2.0-inch wheelbase stretch, 2.2 inches of additional height and a 0.6-inch gain in cabin width all contribute to 97.0 cubic feet of interior volume, giving the Spectra a tangible edge in that department over direct competitors like the Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla and Ford Focus. It's a packaging formula that ensures four full-size adults can be accommodated on a full-time basis and five can survive in a pinch."
"On the road, our Spectra proved an amiable and capable travelmate. Inside, the look, fit and feel of materials is on par with any of its international rivals. The front buckets, while on the somewhat firm side, offer a good combination of support and comfort. Control layouts, gauge legibility and driving position also merit kudos."
"Despite playing in a segment where sales don't tend to come easy, great things are expected of this new Spectra. With major upticks in style and substance, Kia is projecting annual volume for its most popular line to jump from a supply-constrained 50,000 units to 70,000-plus when all four variants finally come on line. Whether the Spectra's combination of attractive packaging, aggressive pricing and a world-class warranty will resonate quite that fully with potential buyers—especially those in the targeted Gen X segment—remains to be seen. But it's definitely become a more formidable foe, no matter how one chooses to draw the battle lines."
#223 of 464 Love the Spectra5, but three things about Kia put me in a Malibu Maxx...
Feb 13, 2005 (11:58 pm)
Loved my Elantra which I gave to my daughter. Liked the new Spectra5 but...
1. I know they had to call the new Spectra an '04 because of CAFE corporate averages, but that was a dumb marketing idea nonetheless. Two totally different cars with the same name and production year, comeon...
2. A couple of months ago, I heard Peter Butterfield on a local automotive call-in program. Someone called and asked him if they'd void their warranty if they got it serviced anywhere but a dealer. BUTTERFIELD SAID YES, THEREBY BOLDLY VIOLATING MAGNESON-MOSS. Chintzy and blatantly illegal.
3. The crash test. I could forgive the Elantra in '01 because it was a late triggering airbag that could have been a fluke, still bothered that they didn't bother retesting until this year. But to have the same platform as the Elantra and fail for structural reasons is inexplicable.
#224 of 464 Re: Butterfield warranty comments and Spectra vs. Elantra safety
Feb 14, 2005 (7:13 am)
Do you remember what radio show you were listening to when Butterfield made that comment? It would interesting to request a transcript for analysis. I agree with you that that statement is troubling if it was meant to include basic scheduled maintenance like oil changes, tune-ups, etc. I wonder if Hyundai/KIA has some fine print that says if a non-Hyundai/KIA repair shop makes any major repairs then that repair isn't reimbursable, and could possibly void the warranty if it wasn't performed correctly?
Good catch on Butterfield's statement though in any case!
Regarding the crash test, I don't think the Spectra's structure was as much a culprit as the airbag and seatbelt were. I suspect that a tweak of the airbag software/seat sensors and the seatbelt pre-tensioners and design will solve the 'poor' rating.
But....I agree with you that there is no excuse for Hyundai not completely sharing their Elantra crash-test knowledge with KIA, and vice-versa to achieve nearly identical results for such similar vehicles.
I suspect that the two divisions DO share a tremendous amount of data on this front, but obviously there are slip-ups occuring in that exchange.
#225 of 464 2004 Spectra in crash - Owner is okay
Feb 14, 2005 (8:41 am)
http://www.timesbulletin.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionI- - D=4&ArticleID=134659
Haggerty turned on his flashing lights and attempted to stop Mansfield, who continued east into the intersection of Crawford and S. Washington St. Reportedly, Mansfield collided with a 2004 Kia Spectra, injuring Koviljka Holman, 50, of Clarksville, Ind.
Mansfield's Cavalier rammed into the southeast corner of a building located at 236 S. Washington St.
Both Holman and Mansfield were taken to Van Wert County Hospital, where Holman was examined and released. Mansfield refused treatment.
The impact must have been a straight-on frontal and not an offset!