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Replying to: luket (Jun 23, 2009 11:55 am) |
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Zip: 19711 Truck: 2009 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner Access Cab 2WD Manual Trans I-4 engine Invoice for this truck is around $18,500. Can it be purchased for $18,500?? I know a lot of other cars/trucks are going for around $1,000 under invoice, how about the Tacoma? |
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Replying to: rumplestilskin (Jul 21, 2009 5:04 pm) [1]Set up 2-3 Yahoo email accounts [very important step] ! [2]Go to a dealer and get his lowest quote for what you want. Then tell them that you have found a deal $350 less but that you won't tell them whom or where. THEY WILL NOT ONLY MATCH IT BUT THEY WILL BEAT IT BY $200.00. GET THIS QUOTE IN WRITING and say I’ll think about it! Now you begin playing the game. [3]NEVER EVER TELL THE DEALERS WHERE YOU RECEIVED THE QUOTES FROM ! [4]Call 4-6 dealers within a couple of hundreds miles and PLAY one against the other ! [5] Spend time on the phone NEVER EVER give your real name OR ANY phone number! [6] ALWAYS cut the price that you were supposedly quoted by another dealer by $150-$300. After you get what you suspect that is the best that you can get them to send you a quote to one of the Yahoo Accounts [7] When you get to the point that dealers start saying that they aren’t able or willing to meet the price quote that you tell them that you have, then you know that you are close to the bottom. Then start all over again ! I F YOU ARE PAITENT, you will be able to bump the prices even lower! I closed a deal for $2,479 lower than the best price that I started with on my 1st quote. $510 below invoice including all rebates! REMEMBER that dealers make $$$ when they claim that they aren't ! I drove off the lot with a smile and the dealer still made money, they won’t admit it and will swear your stealing from them! I hit the home run and they only hit a single ! |
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I shopped today for a Tacoma 4x2 PreRunner Double Cab 4.0L 6 short bed with the TRD Sport Package Option /JBL ($3375 MSRP) Towing Package ($650 MSRP) Running Lights ($40 MSRP) Southeast Toyota Admin Fee ($705) which apparently everyone in NC, SC, GA, AL and FL pays The total MSRP of the truck with Destination was $28,365 and the invoice per Edmunds was $26,630. When the salesman asked what I wanted to pay I told him I had to check with Edmunds first. He turned his laptop around and said, "Want to use this?" So I did and Edmunds suggested a TMV price of $26,273. I turned the laptop around, showed the guy the price and said "I'll offer this". He started writing up the offer sheet and I think,"Wow that was too easy." However when he showed me the offer sheet there was a line item below where he'd written in my offer with Documentary and Retail Delivery $499 so my offer was really the total of both this plus the TMV price which equaled $26,772. This price is before TTL and before the $1,500 manufacturer's rebate. When I questioned the $499 I was told "Everybody pays this, blah, blah, blah" and then the Sales Manager came in and refused to budge and after a while I said I was sorry I couldn't do business with them today, shook hands and left. As I reflect on this later, the irony is that if they had just looked at my offer and said we can't do that but we can do $26,772 I might have said ok let's do this or made a counter offer. However, I just didn't like the way they tried to slip that extra $499 onto my offer without much of an explanation so I walked when they wouldn't budge (which is their right). I was already ticked off with the web inventory system used by all the Southeast Toyota dealers as there were trucks shown to be on site at this dealer which weren't there and apparently had never been there. Also the truck I liked that the web site indicated would be delivered to this dealer on Friday of this week was in fact headed to South Carolina instead. Another irritant was that the Sales Manager spoke as if he was doing *me* a huge favor by seeing if this truck could be sent to his dealership instead of SC. Gee thanks! Remind me, which one of us pays the other one? This is my first post and I created my account to make it but I hope I haven't violated forum etiquette by describing an experience that didn't end in a sale.
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Replying to: beernutz (Jul 22, 2009 1:31 pm) |
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Replying to: beernutz (Jul 22, 2009 1:31 pm) |
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Replying to: ham7 (Jul 21, 2009 7:36 pm) How did I do it? Like ham7, I ended up unintentionally at first playing nearby dealers against each other but didn't use false names and alternate E-mails. Alternate E-mails seem like a good idea in hindsight, because I became worried that perhaps the dealerships might talk to each other and blow me out of the water. It started with going into the closest dealership. They let me walk out after getting to just under $500 over the TMV plus tax and tags after the rebate and for this and all subsequent negotiations, I allowed a generous $150 as the price I would pay for the floor mats. I got a similar response via internet inquiry and phone conversation with another local dealership and an E-mailed price of just over $500 above the TMV plus tax and tags, but with the note that if any dealership could possibly meet or beat this fantastic price in writing, they'd beat it by $300. At the same time, I was trying to find other nearby < 100 mile radius dealerships who might match the TMV price. One of two I tried was very slow to respond through this whole negotiation process, but Toyota of Orangeburg came through with the TMV price I was looking for in an E-mail to me. I was thankful and then used that offer, with the dealership fully disclosed, to send to the closer one who stated they would beat the offer by $300. They replied via E-mail that they would do that. When I told Toyota of Orangeburg another significantly better offer had just come in, they said they'd beat that if it was in writing by $500. I had to wonder at this point how much below invoice can they actually afford to go? I then fully disclosed that I had used their price against another dealership, thinking the other dealership wouldn't actually do it, so I would not hold them to the $500 lower price. They said bring it in in writing and we had a deal at the $500 lower price. I did not have the heart to use that price against the one who said they'd beat anything by $300, because at this point I was overly pleased with the price and I didn't want to deal with an outfit who would not give me their absolute best price up front or at least what I thought I should try to pay. If they had matched the TMV price initially, I probably would be buying from them. At least Toyota of Orangeburg matched what I asked for initially and did not tease me with the offer of beating that price if could get a better one. Plus, even though the vehicle has been ready to deliver, they were willing to wait until after the finalization of the clunkers program (see www.cars.gov) to allow me to save lots more. |
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Does anyone have an idea what might be in store for August when the current $1500 Tacoma rebate expires at the end of the month ? I suspect that the rebates will be extended but does anyone think they might be increased to more than $1500?
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After receiving a call 7-23 PM to come on down on Fri 7-24 to do the deal…I hit the lot at 9:30 this am. The dealer was so confused that there were 4-5 people at a time on the Internet looking at the CARS web site trying to figure out all the details. Before I left home this morning I had read the “Final Rules” posted at 8: am that pertained to my situation and knew that pg. 35 and pg. 70 of the pdf was where to look. Thank GOD I had read the rules. I guided them through the stuff and waited while they debated whether my car was a v6 or v8 [v6 1989 Caprice dose not qualify] After about 15 minutes of KASOS I walked up to the General Manager and said ” Do a VIN # SEARCH or JUST GO COUNT THE SPARK PLUGS DUAH !!!!!!!!” Once that sunk in they raised the hood and counted the plugs [no joke] They could have saved all that time by researching the VIN #. But these guys weren’t into simple things. I signed all the paperwork paid my $$ and drove off the lot at 11:55 AM today 7-24. I drove the truck for a couple of hours came home and played on the Internet. Just for kicks I went to http://www.cashforclunkersfacts.com/ and read that the NHTSA had called a halt to the trades until MONDAY 7-27[posted at 12:05 PM] 10 minutes after I drove off the dealers lot !!!!! ANYWAY I consider myself lucky for doing my homework and hitting the lot EARLY ! NOW I WONDER if they will call me back to resign the paperwork Monday 7-27. HUM ??? That ought to be worth another $300.00 of so, don’t you think ???? |
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