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#1122 of 1138 HELP ME DECIDE!
May 10, 2012 (8:09 pm)
I'm new here. I've never owned a vehicle from the Toyota family before. A couple friends have had Toyota cars & trucks and loved the heck out of them. My Fiance' and I have decided we are going to join the Toyota family. I've always loved the Toyota vehicles, ESPECIALLY Toyota Tacomas, so now it's time to buy one. (FWIW, we are getting my fiance' a Lexus IS350....what a badass car.)
So here's the deal. The Truck I'm looking at is an 07, but it has 90,000 miles. It's from a Certified Toyota dealer though and has a clean carfax and up to date on maint. & recalls. When it was bought brand new the guy paid mid 30's for it because of all the add-on's he got. It's a sweet truck, I've visited it several times now because I love it that much. It sounds weird but after hours I've went by the dealer just to admire the Truck, that's how much I like her. What keeps me leaving without it is that it's hard to pay $20,000 for a truck with 90,000 miles...no matter how nice it is.
So, what's your opinions of the truck...Would you buy it? Advice on if I should ask for them to do anything to the truck before I buy it?(The tires are pretty bad, btw...would need new ones soon). Also, what should I try to get them down to? I don't want to low-ball them...so where should I start at?(I haven't made an offer yet...just "talked")
Sorry for all the rambling.
Here's the truck:
#1123 of 1138 Re: HELP ME DECIDE! [gators4]
May 10, 2012 (8:32 pm)
I would keep searching . These trucks are for sale everywhere and with less miles !
You can put rims and tires on any truck for a couple grand and you said this one needs tires anyway.Also you said its certified. That means the warranty only has 10000 miles left if its at 90000 already .
I would look for one with about 50000 miles less for that price or close that wont need tires .
#1124 of 1138 Re: HELP ME DECIDE! [gators4]
May 11, 2012 (5:31 am)
They seem pretty proud of this truck, but then Tacomas don't seem to depreciate as quickly as many vehicles. Probably a combination of earned reputation and expected reputation. Yes, nearly 93,000 miles is high for a average 2007 and the price takes a hit when using Edmunds to price the vehicle. Can't seem to include all the options listed to price it, so you would have to use your own judgement when adding on for the extras.
While this truck does have high mileage, you are also buying many options on it that make it worth more than a normal base Tacoma. If you just want a vehicle to go from point A to point B and last for 300,000 miles, I'd say to get new equipped with the minimum options you need. If you need everything this vehicle has, you might look around some for one with lower mileage, but just expect to pay more. The thing to remember on used is you'll never know for sure how it was driven and the variety/options available at any given time will be limited.
If you are determined to purchase this vehicle, I notice they offer a selection to get their "e-price" on it. Normally that is lower than the advetised price, so that means they have wiggle room. Check out any tips Edmunds has for negotiating a lower price. IMO, any dealership will normally have a minimum $2,000 asking price above what they paid for it. Part of this is to cover reconditioning and advertising. Don't be wowed by the certification they mention. It's not Toyota's certified warranty because the truck has too many miles and/or is too old to qualify. Basically, they sent it through their service department to check it out and fix what they needed to fix (and I'm betting they took into account it needed brakes when they bought it) in order to sell it on their Toyota dealership lot versus it being sold at Honest Joe's used car lot.
Negotiating points in your favor I can come up with are. 1. It's not snow or hunting season so demand for a 4x4 may be lower and the truck will be sitting on their lot longer if they choose not to sell it to you for the price you are proposing. 2. It has high miles. Anything made by man can break down. Some Toyotas really don't run into the 200,000 mile realm without significant issues (remember it is used and the carfax history shows little maintenance. Maybe they have some other records on it?) 3. Tires are expensive. Yes there's enough tread to drive it off the lot and probably through the summer, but by the time winter gets here, the truck won't be going anywhere much without new tires. Even for "clean" condition, Edmunds states near new tires.
Your weak point is that you want that truck, and they may know it by your repeated trips to visit it. You will be in a battle for your money. They will want to win, and will try to wear you down. They have plenty of time to try to do that. Do you? Get their e-price. Decide what ypu can live with on price/tires, etc. Then when you make an offer, make it lower than what you'll actually be willing to pay (i'd start about $750 lower). Expect lots of back and forth with the sales manager being "the bad guy". Stick to your price for a while but then be willing to give in some, bit by bit, up to your maximum if needed. But at some point, be willing and able to walk out. Sure, there will never be another used truck exactly like that one. But that doesn't mean you need to spend more than you can afford or think it's worth on it. If the sales people can get even a small victory by getting you up several hundred dollars from where you started and they still make some money (which they are entitled to do), they can feel like they have won, and that is very important to their egos. And expect to have every trick in the book used to convince you to pay their price. Also, the better armed you are with factual information, the better off you will be in negotiations. Like if you can prove to them a statistic that shows something like only 85% of Tacomas are still on the road after 200,000 miles whiile 90% of Ford trucks are. Something like that would be able to shoot holes in their reliabilty argument when you bring up the high mileage on the truck.
That's the end of my ramblings. Good luck.
May 12, 2012 (2:35 pm)
Thanks for the responses guys. About the e-price. I went ahead and filled it out to see what it would tell me. It came back with $22,000...2 grand more then the "advertised" price. So I called them up today and they did the "$19,999 is the lowest we can go" thing. So I told them I would come in to negotiate. They told me not a penny lower then $19,999 and that they will have a tent sale in 2 weeks and at the tent sale they will ask $23,000 for it, but that the Truck probably will be sold my this Monday anyways because everyone wants it. So I said Later and left.
I really really really want this Truck. I've made it known. I drool over it every time I see it. I just can't spend the $20,000 on 93,000 miles. Not when I could get a Dodge Ram 1500 with 75,000 miles in Excellent Condition for $12,000. Obviously, i don't want a Ram. I'm just saying. Plus, it's not like my current vehicle is in bad shape.
I'm going to be moving back to Florida soon. I think I'll hold off and look for something when I get back down there. Plus, no Snow and Salt on the roads. I've heard these Trucks up here have been known to rust pretty easily because of the Winters. I might be able to haggle more in Florida anyways since over 10% of Floridians don't have a job.
So, you guys think about 50,000 miles is the most I should go for on used vehicles? I've also heard that 2009 and up is the best years to get. Is this true? I think I'm going to have to go used. When I build my Toyota on Toyota.com it comes out to $30,000. That's not something I can afford. At least not right now.
May 30, 2012 (12:54 pm)
I'd pass on that truck. I've seen 2009's available with much lower mileage for about the same money. Heck, my lease is ending this month..... 2009 double cab, V6 auto with TRD and 40,000 miles and I figure it's only worth about $20k....so just buy mine before I hand it back and get a new one
#1127 of 1138 Re: Thanks [gators4]
May 30, 2012 (4:07 pm)
Keep looking, I looked for 6 months and finally found a one owner 2006 double cab SR-5, Prerunner V-6, 2 wheel drive, automatic, and all options, 40K miles with a set of new Bridgestone Dueler A/Ts for $17800-. The owner wanted a bigger truck! It's a southern rust free truck to boot.
I was just driving down a local road one day and there it was with a "for Sale" sign!
#1128 of 1138 Re: Thanks [popsavalon]
Jun 01, 2012 (9:12 am)
Yeah I decided to pass on it. I might get a Crewmax Tundra. I drove one and really liked it. The extra cabin room would be nice. But not sure. I've found a couple 08's-09's for 22ish so they aren't much more then the Taco.
BUT.....Fiance wants the Taco. Women...Ahhh.
What do you guys think?
#1129 of 1138 Looking into buying
Jul 07, 2012 (3:22 pm)
I am seriously looking at buying a 95 V6 tacoma with the ext cab. It has AC and cruise with 187k miles on it. Buying for $4500. Is this a good buy? Thank you
#1130 of 1138 2012 Double Cab 4x4 V6 L/B
Jul 07, 2012 (4:17 pm)
Looking to buy a 2012 Double Cab 4x4 V6 long bed Tacoma truck. Options we're looking at include:
display audio (MSRP $1930)
TRD Sport Upgrade (MSRP $3975)
Daytime running lights ($40)
V6 Tow Package ($650)
carpet mats ($195)
Total MSRP is $35,685.
So far we've got a local dealer to go for $32,535 (there is also a $500 incentive bringing us to $32,035.
Any other price points out there? Better deals?
#1131 of 1138 New 2012 Access Cab
Jul 15, 2012 (4:51 pm)
Just purchased a new 2012 Access Cab 2.7 liter, 4X2, AT, SR5 in Georgia. MSRP was $23,789. Quoted internet price was $22,513 plus $399 Admin fee and tag and title fees plus sales tax.
Everything went well at the dealership until they tried to add $650 for paint sealant. I just showed the finance guy my internet quote and he took the $650 off.
Overall I had a great buying experience and I love my new Taco. I could have got the same price without the Admin fee at another dealer but that dealer did not have the color that I wanted and I did not want to wait.