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Re: Gasoline additives [imidazol97] by technerd
Sep 08, 2005 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 07, 2005 6:34 pm)

What I'm saying is:
 
That I have a 10 year old car with 187K miles on it, way past it's life expectancy, that is worth maybe a thousand bucks.
 
That since I starting testing with acetone, it runs smoother, has better acceleration. The carbon buildup on the plugs have gone away. The exhaust smells cleaner. That if anything I am driving a little faster than I was before. And I'm still getting a consistantly measurable 22% improvement in milage.
 
I'm not going to pay thousands of bucks every 20K miles or so to have everything checked on a cheap old car. With the miles I put on a car every year, with $3 gas prices, I am saving half the value of my car every year. And in the old beater pickups I run in my construction business I save over there value in gas savings every year. Vehicles that should have died by now, but instead are all running better now than when I first bought them. And I've gained a level of confidence by success in my older vehicles that I am willing to try it out in the newer ones as well.
 
The Auto industry isn't going to spend millions on research so that they can sell fewer new cars. The Fuel industry isn't going to spend millions to cut their sales by 20%. The government isn't interested in reducing their gas tax income.
 
Besides, all these parts are metal and plastic, right... Well guess what, acetone is stored in it's undiluted form in metal cans and plastic bottles. The EPA wouldn't allow it to be sold that way, if it wouldn't be safe on the shelf for years and years! When was the last time you heard "Cleanup on aisle 10, another acetone can just fell apart"?
 
Yes there are altruistic people out there who have checked this stuff. There is a guy out there who has been doing this for over 40 years. He isn't trying to make a fast buck. Those of use who have tried this out and found out that it works aren't going to make money off of you.
 
You know what... Just forget it, don't try it. Stay there in the nice safe herd and never try anything. That way I will make money off of you, becuase I have an economic advantage. I pay 22% less for gas than you do. That's my snake oil, "Complacency", and the really neat thing is the more I give away for free the more money I make.
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everyone count to ten! by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 08, 2005 (8:56 am)
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Please don't anyone take the bait.
 
What did you all think of the link I posted, or have any of you done any further scientific research on acetone in automotive fuel systems?
 
Or shall we move on to something else?
 
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Re: everyone count to ten! [Mr_Shiftright] by shipo
Sep 08, 2005 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 08, 2005 8:56 am)

Regarding your link. Hmmm, still doesn't seem to work. I wonder if it is somehow being blocked due to the cookie handling/blocking that I have enabled.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: everyone count to ten! [shipo] by shipo
Sep 08, 2005 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Sep 08, 2005 9:24 am)

Yup, that was it, turned off the cookie challenge and bang, up came the site.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Ok, snake oils aside...... by 0patience
Sep 08, 2005 (12:11 pm)
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If you ask 100 mechanics, if they were to recommend one, what would it be?
You would probably find that the largest percentage would recommend Lucas products.
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Re: Ok, snake oils aside...... [0patience] by shipo
Sep 08, 2005 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: 0patience (Sep 08, 2005 12:11 pm)

"If you ask 100 mechanics, if they were to recommend one, what would it be?"
 
Errr, "recommend one" what? Recommend one brand of Snake Oil? Geez, that's easy, I can probably recommend twenty. The real question is what would I recommend using them on? Answer: "Beats the hell out of me, certainly not any car I'll ever own."
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Acetone in fuel [Mr_Shiftright] by technerd
Sep 08, 2005 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 08, 2005 8:11 am)

In concentrations of less then 1 in 500 how long is that gonna take.
 
I would have saved far more than the cost of a few minor parts.
 
But never mind me, I'll just take my savings and go home, again & again & again....
 
Funny thing just about everything that doesn't like acetone, doesn't like gasoline either.
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Re: Ok, snake oils aside...... [shipo] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 08, 2005 (2:16 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Sep 08, 2005 12:42 pm)

I thought it was interesting that every website I visited touting acetone invariably mentions the oil company conspiracies and also some sites claimed how some evil people have actually sabotaged the information online so that others would use harmful proportions of acetone, to deliberately give it a bad name.
 
I keep thinking of Carl Sagan's wise words: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".
 
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ahhh, the conspiracy. dang, they got me again. by swschrad
Sep 08, 2005 (5:59 pm)
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if I was to tell you more about it, I'd have to ... well, you know.
 
those are my black helicopters, yup, sure enough ya betcha by golly, then. buy me a cookie
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I remember by isellhondas
Sep 10, 2005 (4:54 pm)
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Using acetone when repairing surfboards when I was much younger.
 
That was NASTY stuff!
 
Think I'll stay in the herd chewing my cud!

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