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1246 messages, Last post on Sep 28, 2009 at 7:37 AM
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Gasoline formulations using Acetone have been worked on for an easy 70 years by my recollection. This is nothing new and certainly nothing capable of obtaining the mileage improvements claimed by some. In a modern efficient engine (pretty much anything made in the last ten years or so) it is of extremely dubious value, and even before that, highly questionable. Anecdotal evidence suggesting that the addition of acetone to pump grade gasoline will significantly improve gasoline mileage is just that, anecdotal, and as such is highly suspect. Folks can believe what they want, and even fool themselves by allegedly performing self tests, but unless there are a number a truly scientific studies proving out the efficacy of this or any other fuel additive, most folks will wisely ignore such claims. Of course, the flip side of all of this are the numerous studies that have shown little if any benefit of acetone being added to fuel. Check where you will, http://www.sae.org, http://naca.larc.nasa.gov or any other site that publishes scientific studies and you will be hard pressed to find any concrete evidence indicating that acetone will improve fuel economy, in fact with a little digging; you will find information quite to the contrary. Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: shipo (Sep 08, 2005 7:45 am) Go to this website and match up the compatibility of "Buna N" (nitrile), which is used in a lot of fuel systems seals and o-rings, and "acetone". You have to choose one from each table to get the compatilbilities. http://www.coleparmer.com/techinfo/chemcomp.asp Just checking around various sources, the general consensus from people with credentials in chemical engineering seem to suggest that putting acetone in your engine is borderline suicidal. Also I saw this funny post on another forum: "I added this to my gas after installing a Turbonator in my intake, my mileage has gone up SO MUCH that I am SELLING GAS BACK TO THE COMPANIES."
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 08, 2005 8:00 am) "Selling gas back to the companies." I love it! Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: shipo (Sep 08, 2005 8:09 am) If it IS a major component, acetone is going to kill your car for sure, for sure.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 07, 2005 6:34 pm) That I have a 10 year old car with 187K miles on it, way past it's life expectancy, that is worth maybe a thousand bucks. That since I starting testing with acetone, it runs smoother, has better acceleration. The carbon buildup on the plugs have gone away. The exhaust smells cleaner. That if anything I am driving a little faster than I was before. And I'm still getting a consistantly measurable 22% improvement in milage. I'm not going to pay thousands of bucks every 20K miles or so to have everything checked on a cheap old car. With the miles I put on a car every year, with $3 gas prices, I am saving half the value of my car every year. And in the old beater pickups I run in my construction business I save over there value in gas savings every year. Vehicles that should have died by now, but instead are all running better now than when I first bought them. And I've gained a level of confidence by success in my older vehicles that I am willing to try it out in the newer ones as well. The Auto industry isn't going to spend millions on research so that they can sell fewer new cars. The Fuel industry isn't going to spend millions to cut their sales by 20%. The government isn't interested in reducing their gas tax income. Besides, all these parts are metal and plastic, right... Well guess what, acetone is stored in it's undiluted form in metal cans and plastic bottles. The EPA wouldn't allow it to be sold that way, if it wouldn't be safe on the shelf for years and years! When was the last time you heard "Cleanup on aisle 10, another acetone can just fell apart"? Yes there are altruistic people out there who have checked this stuff. There is a guy out there who has been doing this for over 40 years. He isn't trying to make a fast buck. Those of use who have tried this out and found out that it works aren't going to make money off of you. You know what... Just forget it, don't try it. Stay there in the nice safe herd and never try anything. That way I will make money off of you, becuase I have an economic advantage. I pay 22% less for gas than you do. That's my snake oil, "Complacency", and the really neat thing is the more I give away for free the more money I make. 
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Please don't anyone take the bait. What did you all think of the link I posted, or have any of you done any further scientific research on acetone in automotive fuel systems? Or shall we move on to something else? Host
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 08, 2005 8:56 am) Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: shipo (Sep 08, 2005 9:24 am) Best Regards, Shipo |
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If you ask 100 mechanics, if they were to recommend one, what would it be? You would probably find that the largest percentage would recommend Lucas products.
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Replying to: 0patience (Sep 08, 2005 12:11 pm) Errr, "recommend one" what? Recommend one brand of Snake Oil? Geez, that's easy, I can probably recommend twenty. The real question is what would I recommend using them on? Answer: "Beats the hell out of me, certainly not any car I'll ever own."  Best Regards, Shipo
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