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ahem....
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Aug 25, 2005 (7:43 am)
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Gentlemen, back to topic please? 
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- #523 of 1246
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Raphite Fuel Additive
by ronmst2
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Aug 25, 2005 (1:33 pm)
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I ran on to some info on a product called Raphite that is added to gas or Diesel to boost fuel efficiency and knock down nox and sox by 1/2---it is marketed bya company in Nebraska--West Point I think called Brookside Biosystems---The rep told me truckers are using the out of it and seeing good results---My question is does anybody know anything about this?????---It sound too good to be true---but you never know---Thanks
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- #524 of 1246
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Re: Speaking of BG Products..... [highroller]
by jarush
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Aug 25, 2005 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: highroller (Aug 22, 2005 1:38 pm)
In a perfect world, you should put the BG44K in before a long trip, so you go through the whole tank of treated gas. It will still work if you do short trips, but a long trip would be ideal. It is great stuff!
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- #525 of 1246
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Re: Raphite Fuel Additive [ronmst2]
by jarush
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Aug 25, 2005 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: ronmst2 (Aug 25, 2005 1:33 pm)
I am from West Point, NE and never heard of Brookside Biosystems, and West Point is a small town. Use a can of BG 44K additive instead. It will do what the Raphite is supposed to do - it is great stuff. You can find someone who sells it at http://www.bgfindashop.com
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- #526 of 1246
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Re: Speaking of BG Products... [Mr_Shiftright]
by jarush
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Aug 25, 2005 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 22, 2005 7:36 am)
I would disagree that BG products are of dubious value to the buyer. BG 44K is great stuff. I can almost guarantee it will improve you gas mileage per gallon by at leat a couple miles. I don't know how it works, but it works.
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- #527 of 1246
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Re: Speaking of BG Products... [jarush]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Aug 25, 2005 (8:21 pm)
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Replying to: jarush (Aug 25, 2005 3:39 pm)
Now I didn't SAY that about all BG products....I've used BG 44K and always recommend it. It was the "oil additive" that I thought might be of dubious value not because the product was bad or phony but because I think modern oils have everything they need in them.
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- #528 of 1246
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Raphite
by ronmst2
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Aug 26, 2005 (12:14 pm)
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I called information in West Point Nebr and then Called Brookside Biosystems they do have a product called Raphite available---for increased fuel efficiency---I got the prices and am going to try it---
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- #529 of 1246
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What is the "bottom line".
by philberto
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Sep 04, 2005 (6:24 pm)
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I have been reading here and around the net for info on the "best gas" and the "best oil". Specifically, I'm looking for test data and NOT personal opinion. Does anyone have some links to actual lab tests?
I have checked out "toptiergas" and "amsoil". Amsoil looks like great stuff, but what about gas? Is Chevron the way to go? Any test data on actual MPG studies and deposit teardown investigations? Why do I get my best mileage from Hess? Maybe I need to add "Techron" to Hess gas??? I need more info!
I have a new care and want to give it the best I can. I just need some real data.
Thanks!
Phil ~
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Re: What is the "bottom line". [philberto]
by rstarck
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Sep 05, 2005 (12:07 am)
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Replying to: philberto (Sep 04, 2005 6:24 pm)
I stumbled across this supposed miracle product Enviro-Max Plus and am really interested if there is ANY net savings from gas purchases by using this product. I've spent about 1.5 hours reading through all the posts where you have one guy selling this stuff saying it works and then you have all these other "mechanically and chemically car inclined and experienced" guys telling all the reasons it won't work. There did appear to be an unbiased person who was going to try it out. Has he reported anything anywhere with his results? It would seem there would be more people willing to try the product first hand to see the actual results instead of writing back and forth over and over speculating. I'll be truly convinced about the nature of this product when one of the experienced non-believing-in-this-product guys use the product and report what happened. I can't trust hype and salespeople, even if they are being honest and completely accurate. But i can trust someone who makes no money from promoting this stuff if he reports the results. Heck, i'll try this test. This Friday, i'll be driving 1500 miles in a 1997 Pontiac Transport and am currently getting about 20-21.7 MPG. *****Hey, to whoever you are who is selling this stuff, please send me 4 free bottles (i'll pay for the shipping to make it more fair) and i'll report back the results. If you are as confident in your product as you say you are, you would want me to try your product and then show the product works and report the good news to all your ney-sayers on this discussion board who have chemical and mechanical backgrounds who say this product won't work. It almost appears that pride has taken over with both sides trying to prove their point. Let's stop talking and start trying. I just hope this stuff doesn't screw up my engine. Thanks, Rick
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Re: What is the "bottom line". [rstarck]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Sep 05, 2005 (9:02 am)
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Replying to: rstarck (Sep 05, 2005 12:07 am)
The claims are so hyperbolic to me that I wouldn't even bother testing it personally, or even suggeting that you do. It's really not "bias", it's common sense that we are trying to apply here. If you think pigs can fly, great, but not on my dime. There are no miracles in a can.
The "red flags" for me were a) higly inflated claims of results, b) VERY strange science and c) the MLM scheme.
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