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1246 messages, Last post on Sep 28, 2009 at 7:37 AM
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Aug 14, 2008 4:07 am) "Do you have any support to that concept other than advertising?" Have you looked around the Top Tier web site? Seems like they do require more than the base level of detergents, after discussions with a number of car manufacturers.
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Replying to: texases (Aug 17, 2008 8:42 pm) The only Top Tier gas company that operates in my area is Shell under the Texaco name. They only have a handful of stations here. I guess BMW and Honda should stop selling cars in the York (PA) since there is no gas in this area that can run their cars. Oh wait, Turkey Hill does operate here.
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Replying to: dtownfb (Aug 20, 2008 5:26 pm) I like the idea that someone is aware of fuel quality, but I view the group as something like the car dealers with their gold star dealer award--the only one in the state of Ohio. Of course the next dealer is a blue star dealer award winner. I have every belief that my Mobile at the local UDF store is as good as the BP and Shell even though it's not paying the membership fee to the top tier group.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Aug 20, 2008 5:32 pm) I like your analogy. I don't buy it either. I have an Oldsmobile Intrigue (GM product; one of the founders of the Top Tier gas group) with 164k miles, still averaging between 24-26 mpg. All I use is "cheap" gas.
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Replying to: dtownfb (Aug 20, 2008 5:44 pm) |
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This sounds like the "Flat Earth Society: Automotive Division". 
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The whole fuel additive topic seems to be "hot" right now. For those that are believers in the benefits of fuel additives, I have a question. I typically dump in a bottle of Techron after each oil change (typically at 4-5000 mile intervals). I have read that premium gas contains more additives, detergents, etc. If that is true, would running a tank or two of premium once in a while have the same effect as a bottle of injector cleaner? The car is a Camry SE-V6 with 3.3 liter engine. Have the same engine in the wife's Highlander.
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Replying to: lmacmil (Jan 11, 2009 8:55 am) Your Camry, your Highlander, and virtually every other late model car on the road is designed from the outset to run on the additives that are already included in the recommended fuel, and as such, you can expect an easy quarter of a million miles from your fuel system with little or no remedial maintenance WITHOUT the use of extra additives. If you don't believe what I've said, hey, no problem, just look at your Owner's Manuals. If you don't believe them, call Toyota, they'll all tell you pretty much the same thing. Best regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: lmacmil (Jan 11, 2009 8:55 am) My response to additives is that I don't use them unless I need something to clean up a bad injector, and then I buy stuff that is far more potent than off-the-shelf additives you get at the supermarket. And even that works only once in a while. |
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Replying to: lmacmil (Jan 11, 2009 8:55 am) The products that lubricate a fuel system and if you plan to keep a vehicle for many mile or a long time, might provide some improvement in injector and or fuel pump life. I know I will get many "do not do it" statements. The only place that I have seen any real trials is consumer report and they say do not do it. As you may or may not know the fuel touches the valves and therefore the valve guides can be affected due to close tolerance's. Fuel injector are a close tolerance's part of the fuel system too. Fuels today have changed in the last few years and will continue to do the same. The fuels of the past due to lead additive and sulfur did lubricate and protect valve/vale seat surfaces. The newest additive, Ethanol can cause problems in fuel systems and I assume there will soon be a fuel additive label with some reference to their product stopping phase separation, water suspension, clean ,lube and polish your tail pipe too! But all that said, I am sure there is a product or two that have double blind tests and laboratory proof that there product will do what is claimed, I wish I could find it. If you do, tell us, and I will be open minded enough to look into it. I for one appreciate you question and the conversation.
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