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Maintenance & Repair Fuel and Oil Additives
1246 messages, Last post on Sep 28, 2009 at 7:37 AM
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Post removed for soliciting products. No soliciting is allowed in the Carspace Forums. thank you MrShiftright Host |
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I'm thinking that this discussion should be closed as it has simply become a place for every snake oil salesman to post his or her bogus sales stuff. 
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 13, 2008 3:08 am) |
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 13, 2008 3:08 am) Naw , this is the only place people can come to find out things that don't work and why. Besides the spam gives Mr Shifty something to do other then real answers to things 
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Replying to: ray80 (Jun 13, 2008 7:06 am) Yeah I think the topic might still have some value, presenting links to factual data. But we'll see how bad it gets, now that everyone is hysterical about gas prices.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 13, 2008 8:00 am) Remember that very few additives on the market have ever had to back up their claims. Slick 50 and other additives with PTFE made a lot of claims that it adhered to the cylinder liners and bearing surfaces to coat them. Dupont (they invented Teflon) and NASA both have made comments that in order for PTFE (teflon) to adhere to anything, special primer agents are required. Some light reading. http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1996/07/slick.shtm As for oil, synthetic is actually pretty good. If you use it, there really isn't any reason to use an additive, if you give your engine proper maintenance. Older engines, synthetics have a tendency to locate minor leaks and make them larger, mainly because synthetics have a tendency to flow better. In those cases, use organic oil. Nothing wrong with organic oils. As for fuel additives. There is only one that I ever use. Lucas products. And I've tried a ton of them. Usually I only use their product to try on an injector that is giving me problems. Often it will help clear it up. As for any products that extend fuel economy. HA HA!! funny. If there were such a thing that actually worked, you would find it in every gas station, market place and garage. Why? Because anything that actually works sells well and these places know that. Then there are those that say that they will make the engine burn cleaner and pass DEQ inspections. Wanna know a secret? If you change your oil before a DEQ inspection, your chances of passing have greatly increased. Used oil in the engine is contaminated with HCs, CO2 and CO. All of which your O2 sensor reads and can fail you on the DEQ test. Another example is the new claims of the HHO kits for vehicles. They claim they make the vehicle run on hydrogen. That it increases horsepower, makes them run quieter and extends fuel economy. All of this off your vehicle's 12V system. For those who don't know. Using electricity to split water molecules from electrolysis requires a bit more than your 12V system can put out. Is it possible that these kits will actually produce some useable hydrogen in addition to regular fuel? Yes. Not saying that it is enough to meet their claims, but it will produce a minute amount of hydrogen. So, don't believe all the claims you see that these companies make. A lot of people seem to think that they have to be true for them to make the claims. Quaker state made claims that were false for years, before the FTC nailed them on it. How many people believed the hype? Ok, that's my 2 cents. Consider it for what it is worth. Nothing. Just my opinion.
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Replying to: 0patience (Jun 28, 2008 3:51 pm) I once used a Lucas additive as a last resort when I had a power steering rack leak. I had that car three years afterwards and it never leaked again. I have seen Rislone remove carbon deposits that have restored compression. I woldn't have believed this but I have seen it work many times. Add a quart of Rislone and drive the car HARD for ten miles or more. Nothing will improve gas mileage but people will believe what they want to.
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Replying to: isellhondas (Jul 01, 2008 1:45 pm) You got my attention - are you talking in the combustion chamber? If so, how'd you use it? I've just added Rislone to the oil, wouldn't think that'd help in the combustion chamber.  edit - let me ask the more general question - my '95 Suburban knocks on regular due to carbon buildup. Techron helps some, but I've always wondered if there's something else that might do more. Suggestions? |
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You can do a "carbon blast" where you introduce a strong solvent through the intake system. I've seen old timers use a water bottle with AMAZING results too And a quart of Rislone poured in the motor oil works too but I'm not exactly why? Opatience?
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