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Fuel and Oil Additives

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Re: REF:: [wtd44] by chesty
Mar 03, 2008 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: wtd44 (Mar 02, 2008 4:15 pm)

Motor Oil & Additives are very important when it comes to taking care of your vehicle, so don't miss a minute giving your car the best maintenance or repair if need. Fix this leak asap. Don't you know that improvements that add up to splendid protection for 15,000 miles is courtesy of this oil additives? I've done this before with my car and it all went fine after i fixed the leak. I also checked my Cadillac fuel tank to see if there's any problem. But when things become more complex, i seek for professional help via engine repair.
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Ignorance is a two way street! by zoomzoomn
Mar 05, 2008 (9:14 am)
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  Fuel and oil additives run the gambit from harmful to beneficial. The reality in a capitalist society is that everybody will tell you what you want to hear and sell you what cures your ailment - regardless of the solid truth about the product. Buyer beware!!!
 
That being said, I have used products over the years that I could actually see, feel, or hear the benefit afterwards. After using their products for years, I actually worked for BG Products (see bgprod.com) for awhile. Part of the training included a trip to their headquarters, laboratory and production facilities in Wichita, Kansas. What I thought that I had known by previous years of positive experiences using their various products was just blown away by the knowledge gained after that visit.
 
BG develops all of their main products in house. They have a lab to develop products and an engineering department for testing. Heck, they even use employee vehicles for long term testing. They are quite thorough and their products do offer benefits to the systems for which they were created.
 
While there are plenty of benign products out there, BG is not one of them. They are not the cheapest, but they do strive to be the best. Two main products for consideration should be their 44K fuel additive that is used every 10-15K miles and MOA oil additive that is used every oil change. Check out their web site and try their products and you will see for yourself what a good additive along with regular maintenance can do for your vehicle!
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Re: Ignorance is a two way street! [zoomzoomn] by shipo
Mar 05, 2008 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: zoomzoomn (Mar 05, 2008 9:14 am)

And your point is???
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Gas treatments by fljoslin
Mar 05, 2008 (7:35 pm)
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I am a firm believer in use of gas treatments to maintain the function of fuel injectors. and to a lesser degree carburetors. For example, I have a 99 Intrepid purchased new and about three years ago it developed an engine miss. This car has the 3.2L engine and has always been incredibly smooth. I diagnosed the code as miss on cylinder #2. I changed the coil from cylinder #2 with one from another cylinder with no change in the miss. Then I replaced the spark plugs again with no change. At this point I decided to take the car to my local Chrysler dealer who I "trust". They charged me for 1/2 hour labor told me the plugs were new and said that they would recommend a fuel injector gas treatment. The mechanic took me aside and suggested that I get the biggest SUV size gas cleaner and do that once or twice. I did that and the car has run just fine since. Every couple of months this car seems to run not quite as smoothly so I get a gas treatment which smooths the engine up nicely. I have had similar experiences in other vehicles. As to type or brand of gas treatment, I try to get the biggest cheapest petroleum based variety that is available. Many contain methanol as the main ingredient which I do not think as as effective.
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Re: Gas treatments [fljoslin] by isellhondas
Mar 06, 2008 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: fljoslin (Mar 05, 2008 7:35 pm)

In the dozens and dozens of cars I have owned, I have NEVER used a gas additive and I have NEVER had a problem.
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Re: Gas treatments [isellhondas] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Mar 06, 2008 (1:37 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Mar 06, 2008 12:50 pm)

I've only used fuel additives for diesel cars. I think that's a good idea. But I've never used a gasoline additive in dozens of my former cars driving hundreds of thousands of miles. Not once incident in all those cars and all those years. I'm sure injectors do go astray now and then but I guess I've been lucky.
 
I think the normal additives in good gasoline do the trick. In diesels, you have other factors such as algae growth, gelling, etc to watch out for.
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Yup by shipo
Mar 06, 2008 (1:46 pm)
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Between my wife and I we've logged well over one and a half million miles and never once used a fuel additive (errr, except for that silly Acetone test I did a couple of years back to silence the Acetone zombies). Last summer when I did a head gasket job on one of our old cars I happened to take a shot up the intake runner toward the schnozzle of the fuel injector.
 
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1219/751628505_ba11be6463_o.jpg
 
And a second shot from just above the injector down toward the fuel spray zone.
 
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1162/751628513_acc93f83cb_o.jpg
 
Geez, they sure look pretty clean to me, especially considering that engine had lugged a minivan all over New England for nine years, accruing 143,625 miles (at the time of the photos), and never used any fuel additives.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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You Betcha! [shipo] by wtd44
Mar 06, 2008 (3:44 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Mar 06, 2008 1:46 pm)

Many thanks for taking those photos. I've feared for years that I might be the only guy that does stuff like that!
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Re: You Betcha! [wtd44] by shipo
Mar 06, 2008 (7:15 pm)
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Replying to: wtd44 (Mar 06, 2008 3:44 pm)

Yeah, I'm not always playing with a full deck (at least according to some folks). My business partner always chastises me for changing my own oil (and doing other maintenance), "After all," he says, "that's what grease monkeys are for."
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Obsessive Repulsive by wtd44
Mar 07, 2008 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Mar 06, 2008 7:15 pm)

I was referring to the taking of photos during maintenance procedures. I once documented the changing of the air filter on a Honda Valkyrie, for example! Yes, it's gratifying to be obsessive on this stuff...

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