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#352 of 391 Re: wow [larsb]
Mar 08, 2010 (9:50 am)
Could be interesting, but that article leaves alot of open questions.
We know the weight of their vehicle and its fuel efficiency. Great. But what else? How much power is that engine putting out? What other fuel efficiency devices are being employed on the vehicle?
50% improvement? Based on what? It says at the bottom they are currently testing it in existing engines. So, if that is underway, what was previously done to come up with this 50% number?
I'm sure the list goes on.
#353 of 391 A few thougths...
Mar 08, 2010 (4:40 pm)
- Smokey's experiment, while a success, was onerous from a manufacturing perspective.
- Smokey's 50% increase in fuel economy was compared to engines of the mid 1980s, not exactly a golden age of fuel economy. Said another way, I dare say that the 2.0T currently in the VW GTI would very nearly match (if not exceed) the performance and economy of Smokey's engine without all of the extremely complex plumbing.
- From the perspective of this "New technology" being worked on by Transonic, nothing even remotely new, and like texases said, I'm thinking that the thermal losses are a much larger hurdle than more efficiently burning the gasoline. Think about it this way, I recently read a very detailed dissertation on the state of the art of combustion technology, and we find that very little of the gasoline that is injected into a combustion chamber (ala. the VW engine I mentioned before) is actually wasted. Is the combustion as efficient as what is derived in a Perfectly Stirred Reactor (PSR)? No. Is it over 90% as efficient? Yes.
- So, if modern combustion science is able to atomize fuel to a level that is approaching the PSR, then where does Transonic think they're getting this 50% gain?
- With the above in mind I'm going to go out on a limb here (in my mind a very short and strong one) and say that what the folks at Transonic are touting is bordering on a scam.
As a fellow member (markcincinnati) is known to say from time to time, "I'm often wrong but never uncertain." That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
#354 of 391 Re: A few thougths... [shipo]
Mar 09, 2010 (1:35 pm)
Good post, however, I am not usually wrong but generally uncertain.
To quote the late Michael Crichton, (Author of Jurassic Park, among others):
"I am certain there is too much certainty in the world."
#355 of 391 Just thought I would reply
Oct 29, 2010 (1:45 pm)
Hi, I know this is an old post, but was interested in it. I have heard only of a few things on the market that changes your mpg's so I am sure many of you know more than I know so I won't argue with any of you without knowing what I am talking about!! Anyway I have come across a product just a few months ago & tested it on my own car & my husbands 18 wheeler. On my car I have a 1998 Chevy Lumina over 200,000 miles on it. I got a baseline of 18mpg in town driving & 22mpg highway. So I started testing it while my car needed repairs on it (husband didn't want to change anything on it) It needed spark plugs, fuel filter, oil change, air filter etc. All of the normal things that needs to be cared for. So I used the product for 2 fill ups, first thing I noticed was increased horse power. Could pass cars without being scared!! Then I noticed that there was a decrease in mpgs down to 17-16mpg Then by the second tank it went up to 20mpg town & 24 highway. Then we changed the spark plugs etc & ran the car without any treatment in it for 2 tanks. Even with all the new spark plugs we dropped back down to where we were before & no horsepower again. So then I started using it again & we are now up to 21 in town & 26 highway. Oh & I also forgot to mention I have something wrong with the cadilliac(SP) converter. We are planning on replacing it. So I feel like it's worth it to have this product in my car. I can buy 4 packets for 17.95 & save about 80.00 a month because I fill up less. I dropped about 2 to 3 tanks a month. I was filling up 9 times & now I am down to 6 to 7 depending on the month. Then we got my husbands 18 wheeler no big detailed letter there, but he went from 4.8 to 6.1mpg loaded & 5.5 to 8mpg empty & increased horsepower. So there are products out there that does save on fuel.
#356 of 391 Re: Just thought I would reply [skywatcher1973]
Oct 29, 2010 (8:06 pm)
"So there are products out there that does save on fuel."
Ummm, yeah, you have me convinced. NOT!
Sorry, there is absolutely zero chance that the miracle product you "tested" did anything but waste money.
#357 of 391 Re: Just thought I would reply [shipo]
Oct 29, 2010 (9:07 pm)
You know what I am just telling you what happened to my car & my husbands rig. I believe it cause I am the one driving the car daily. I'm not claiming it to be a miracle product, but I am guessing by your reply you think it sounds to good to be true. Everyone that I have talked to that has tried it (cause I told a few friends about it) they all have simulair results. I have been using it 3 months & I haven't wasted any money on it. But hey I'm not trying to convince you, just help save people on fuel cost.
#358 of 391 Re: Just thought I would reply [skywatcher1973]
Oct 30, 2010 (5:42 am)
Let me repeat what has been said before:
So you can understand our cynicism I hope.
If there ever IS something that works, it won't be "you and a few friends" using it. It will be about 90% of the world's drivers using it. In today's instant communication world, something that works will be on a million Twitter accounts within hours of being proven true.
#359 of 391 Re: Just thought I would reply [larsb]
Oct 30, 2010 (7:14 am)
Well it's not all over it, but I just looked at my twitter account & it's on there. Well then while you are waiting for it to become wide spread I will be saving on gas. I totally understand being a skeptic as I was too, but now I believe it & use it. When you see it popping up on there remember you heard it here first!!
#361 of 391 Re: Just thought I would reply [skywatcher1973]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Oct 30, 2010 (7:57 am)
Directing people to another site to learn about your miracle pill looks like soliciting and that's not permitted on our site.