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Re: another genie in the bottle [qbrozen] by texases
Oct 02, 2008 (11:39 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Oct 02, 2008 8:21 am)

sounds an awful lot like those stupid little fuel line magnets they have been selling for years that "rearrange the fuel molecules for better burning."
 
That's what I thought when I first read about it, but turns out it puts a BIG electric field (1000 volts/mm) across the fuel. Say the electrodes are an inch apart, that 25KV Not something you just hook up to the battery...
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Re: another genie in the bottle [texases] by qbrozen
Oct 02, 2008 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: texases (Oct 02, 2008 11:39 am)

Not something you just hook up to the battery
 
Its not? So how did they power it?
I quickly scanned the study report and didn't see that info. (?)
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Re: another genie in the bottle [qbrozen] by texases
Oct 02, 2008 (2:42 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Oct 02, 2008 2:35 pm)

You'd need a transformer to get 25 KV, could be done, just not like the mason jar and two wires the HHO guys tout. And yes, I didn't see much regarding actually doing it. Wonder what it'd cost? Also odd the only gasoline spray test was with 20% ethanol, not even available. Makes you think they tried regular gas, saw no effect.
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in the news by steve_ HOST
Dec 18, 2008 (2:58 pm)
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See more Car Pictures at CarSpace.com

 
The news from Popular Science back in 1952 that is.
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A123 is a loser by steve_ HOST
Jan 08, 2009 (9:57 am)
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And I'm not slamming Lawrence Welk.
 
"Real-world testing by Consumer Reports showed the best-selling plug-in conversion kit for the Toyota Prius did not come close to meeting its manufacturer's fuel-economy claim of a possible 100+ miles per gallon, the magazine says in its February issue."
 
Consumer Reports: Prius Plug-In Kit Gets Nowhere Near Maker's 100+ MPG Claim (Green Car Advisor)
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Re: A123 is a loser [steve_] by gagrice
Jan 08, 2009 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 08, 2009 9:57 am)

That is the brand of battery that burnt up a Prius last summer...The company has several of the conversions. They parked them all till it can be determined what happened. I still think Li-Ion batteries are years away from practical EV usage.
 
The first known instance of a plug-in hybrid car going up in flames occurred on June 7 in Columbia, South Carolina to a 2008 Prius that had been converted to plug-in capability for the Central Electric Power Cooperative. The conversion was performed with a Hybrids-Plus PHEV15 conversion kit that uses an A123 Systems lithium ion battery pack. The incident is still under investigation by Phoenix, Arizona-based Electric Transportation Engineering Corporation. Initial information indicates the fire may have been triggered by something related to the on-board battery charger and the car had previously experienced some mechanical issues related to that.
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Re: A123 is a loser [gagrice] by larsb
Jan 08, 2009 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 08, 2009 1:10 pm)

gary says, I still think Li-Ion batteries are years away from practical EV usage.
 
GM and Toyota will beg to differ.
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Re: A123 is a loser [larsb] by steve_ HOST
Jan 08, 2009 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 08, 2009 1:12 pm)

Nothing that a few bucks won't solve.
 
A123 Systems Seeks $1.8 Billion Federal Loan For EV Battery Factories in U.S.
 
Support Builds for Hybrid, EV Battery Funding in U.S. Economic Stimulus Plan

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