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Re: another genie in the bottle [steve_] by texases
Oct 02, 2008 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Oct 02, 2008 7:45 am)

I came across this a couple of days ago, and I emailed the Temple U. prof. to make sure it was legit. It is, he did the work, the report is here (and the report makes reasonable technical sense (a first!), assuming the data's correct): Temple U Report
 
That said, the device appears to be best suited for diesels, no gas-engine data present. I also wonder why, instead of a '6 month road test', they don't put it through the EPA mpg test. Finally, I am VERY concerned about the company the professor hooked up with - they sell a number of USELESS "gas-saving" gadgets. Not a good sign.
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Re: another genie in the bottle [texases] by steve_ HOST
Oct 02, 2008 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: texases (Oct 02, 2008 8:21 am)

There's not enough chrome on the gizmo either, but maybe later versions will fix that.
 
Someone noted over in the blog comments that the good professor may have changed his driving habits and that accounts for some of the mpg increase.
 
I bet I could sneak one of these miracle cures on my wife's minivan without telling her, and the mpg wouldn't change a bit.
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Re: another genie in the bottle [qbrozen] by texases
Oct 02, 2008 (11:39 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Oct 02, 2008 8:21 am)

sounds an awful lot like those stupid little fuel line magnets they have been selling for years that "rearrange the fuel molecules for better burning."
 
That's what I thought when I first read about it, but turns out it puts a BIG electric field (1000 volts/mm) across the fuel. Say the electrodes are an inch apart, that 25KV Not something you just hook up to the battery...
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Re: another genie in the bottle [texases] by qbrozen
Oct 02, 2008 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: texases (Oct 02, 2008 11:39 am)

Not something you just hook up to the battery
 
Its not? So how did they power it?
I quickly scanned the study report and didn't see that info. (?)
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Re: another genie in the bottle [qbrozen] by texases
Oct 02, 2008 (2:42 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Oct 02, 2008 2:35 pm)

You'd need a transformer to get 25 KV, could be done, just not like the mason jar and two wires the HHO guys tout. And yes, I didn't see much regarding actually doing it. Wonder what it'd cost? Also odd the only gasoline spray test was with 20% ethanol, not even available. Makes you think they tried regular gas, saw no effect.
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in the news by steve_ HOST
Dec 18, 2008 (2:58 pm)
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See more Car Pictures at CarSpace.com
 
The news from Popular Science back in 1952 that is.
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A123 is a loser by steve_ HOST
Jan 08, 2009 (9:57 am)
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And I'm not slamming Lawrence Welk.
 
"Real-world testing by Consumer Reports showed the best-selling plug-in conversion kit for the Toyota Prius did not come close to meeting its manufacturer's fuel-economy claim of a possible 100+ miles per gallon, the magazine says in its February issue."
 
Consumer Reports: Prius Plug-In Kit Gets Nowhere Near Maker's 100+ MPG Claim (Green Car Advisor)
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Re: A123 is a loser [steve_] by gagrice
Jan 08, 2009 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 08, 2009 9:57 am)

That is the brand of battery that burnt up a Prius last summer...The company has several of the conversions. They parked them all till it can be determined what happened. I still think Li-Ion batteries are years away from practical EV usage.
 
The first known instance of a plug-in hybrid car going up in flames occurred on June 7 in Columbia, South Carolina to a 2008 Prius that had been converted to plug-in capability for the Central Electric Power Cooperative. The conversion was performed with a Hybrids-Plus PHEV15 conversion kit that uses an A123 Systems lithium ion battery pack. The incident is still under investigation by Phoenix, Arizona-based Electric Transportation Engineering Corporation. Initial information indicates the fire may have been triggered by something related to the on-board battery charger and the car had previously experienced some mechanical issues related to that.

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