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Re: 1997 Olds Aurora [Mr_Shiftright] by cadillacraig
Mar 01, 2009 (5:38 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Mar 01, 2009 2:31 pm)

Thank you very nuch for the help. I managed to get apart because of you. I found the plastic handle broken and tried to repair it with super glue to no avail. So it seems that i need to find a replacement handle. any suggestions? Craig
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Re: 1997 Olds Aurora [cadillacraig] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Mar 01, 2009 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: cadillacraig (Mar 01, 2009 5:38 pm)

Ah, but will you be able to get it back TOGETHER because of me?
 
Of course you will.
 
Ah, door handle parts--that could be very tough. I'd say google the internet for Oldsmobile parts, then try eBay search, then see if someone on your local craigslist is parting out an Aurora, then try a large wrecking yard in your area, or a "Pick a Part".
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Re: 1997 Olds Aurora [Mr_Shiftright] by cadillacraig
Mar 01, 2009 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Mar 01, 2009 5:57 pm)

Thanks again. I know I can get it back together...because I still have some super glue left over, lol . Now for the shopping of the door handle. and a pearl white one at that. Hey..what do ya think of changinging the air intake to a aftermarket type? or adding a performance chip? There are these parts on eBay and i feel tempted to bid!? Craig
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Re: 1997 Olds Aurora [cadillacraig] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Mar 01, 2009 (8:02 pm)
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Replying to: cadillacraig (Mar 01, 2009 6:54 pm)

You mean cold air intake? Yeah that might gain you a few HP and some nice noise. As for chips, that's trickier, because some chips a) don't work at all; b) they work but they do things that are not necessarily good for your car or c) are honest and do what they claim.
 
With chips, I think it's always a good idea to talk to someone who has installed that very same chip in their car.
 
With CAI, you have to be careful of how low they place the air intake, since there is the danger of sucking water into the engine from a deep puddle, etc. So placement of the air filter is an important engineering feature for you to investigate.
 
If your engine inhales water from a puddle, it'll seize up in a red hot minute.
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Re: 1997 Olds Aurora [Mr_Shiftright] by cadillacraig
Mar 01, 2009 (8:37 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Mar 01, 2009 8:02 pm)

Ahhhh yes...air intake ...there are two differant ones about 25.00 apart on ebay, one has a shield that they claim is a heat shield but I think it may be more for water as you mentioned. I did look around as you suggested for used Olds aurora parts and have a couple of inquiries with auto wreckers/dismantlers for the door handle. The whole chip thing is new to me as iam old school with my two cadillacs a 66 and a 69. simple raw power and lots of US steel around me! very little plastic!! I bought this Aurora from a tranny shop with a repair bill of 3200.00 for rebuilding the trans. The previous owners didnt pay the bill so I got a good deal. Now it is the door handle,minor detailing etc. Might be a keeper too early to tell. i will keep you posted on my progress and ask for more help when needed. Iam always open to suggestions/postive criticisum and or a spelling totor! LOL
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Re: 1997 Olds Aurora [cadillacraig] by e_net_rider
Mar 02, 2009 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: cadillacraig (Mar 01, 2009 8:37 pm)

Assuming fuel is not a concern since you seem to seek raw power, you might be interested in that there are indications the very first ones off the line had the Cadillac 4.6 Aurora engine. They may have been for test purposes only.
If you are willing to do that consideration, you will gain a lot of torque at lower RPM because the 4.0 seems to be a down-stroked twin. You will have to carefully research such things as weight and physical size to see if it is do-able. Any great weight changes would need to be considered with suspension. A heavier, longer through crankshaft would add weight, but partly offset with shorter connecting rods, I'm assuming. They might even use the same heads? But then I would not be surprised if the 4.6 had bigger valves or a different valve timing. Also cooling capabilities need a close look. If you have the one with oil cooler, you might consider a radiator w/o one and a way to mount the current oil cooler in front of radiator.
Then learn the intracacies of wiring. There might not be any differences due to the similarity, other than computer programming. That is they may use the same computer, but then there may be differences to programming for non-powertrain items. You could overcome this by knowing someone who has the programming equipment and changing the parameters coded in.
Also there is a final drive issue to look at, comparing to the Cadillac with the 4.6. The Aurora came in a autobahn version. As near as I could find, the only differences were the requirement for V rated tires and the final drive ratio was different, allowing more RPM per MPH. It seems the standard setup did not have enough torque or HP to push it 150+MPH. And of course the RPM limiter was either removed or raised to a much higher point.
I'm not saying the final drive of the standard Aurora 4.0 is the same as the Cadillac with 4.6, or even the autobahn version. Something to consider and weigh according to your end desire. That is I can't even say if the fuel mix parameters were the same for the autobahn version or if the computer automatically took care of that and certainly something to consider if you start swapping final drive ratio.
 
Good Luck.
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Re: 1997 Olds Aurora [Mr_Shiftright] by e_net_rider
Mar 02, 2009 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Mar 01, 2009 8:02 pm)

"If your engine inhales water from a puddle, it'll seize up in a red hot minute. "
 
I'll go one further and say it will come apart. Water does not compress so you will likely have one of the following.
Busted piston or broken rings.
Broken connecting rod.
Broken Crankshaft.
Damaged cylinder wall.
At least damaged bearings.
Cold water sucked through intake might yield:
Warped or cracked heads.
Cracked valves.
Cracked block.
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Re: 1997 Olds Aurora [cadillacraig] by pscheid
Mar 02, 2009 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: cadillacraig (Mar 01, 2009 5:38 pm)

My driver's side door handle recently broke too (1998). My mechanic got one within a day or two, so they are readily available retail. Don't know if he got it through Cadillac or what. About $85 for the part, and they only come in one color, dark grey metallic. Has to be painted by you or the mechanic to match your car color before installation. Don't forget to lube all of the window, latch, and lock mechanisms while you have everything exposed.
 
Jack
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Re: 1997 Olds Aurora [pscheid] by e_net_rider
Mar 02, 2009 (7:39 am)
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Replying to: pscheid (Mar 02, 2009 6:36 am)

Also you will find glued in place weather sheeting covering access holes. It is important to put it back in place as it becomes a source of noise flow into the interior. What the best glue is I can not say because it is difficult finding something that will stick to plastic sheeting.
Butyl-rubber might work, but it is messy to work with.
Any ideas?
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Re: 1997 Olds Aurora [e_net_rider] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Mar 02, 2009 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: e_net_rider (Mar 02, 2009 6:14 am)

Oh yeah, horrible things can happen. At best, it bends all the connecting rods so the pistons seize in the bores. But you're right, you can bust a rod right through the block, or even lift the cylinder head. It's a disaster. Routing a CAI too low is a very reckless thing to do.

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