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Re: 95 TRANNY PROBLEM... HELP PLEEAASSEE!!! [ndeysayau95] by mastecutor
Dec 31, 2008 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: ndeysayau95 (Dec 30, 2008 9:14 pm)

Seem to have a multitude of problems here.
 
1) your radiator drip sound like you have a crack in your radiator or your hoses are broke. First things first. Determine where the drip is coming from. I've had three cases of losing radiator fluid on my 98'. A) Water pump seal bad.(Solution, replace water pump (belt just because) cost $200). B) Radiator hoses: replace outlet and inlet. C) Crack in plastic housing of radiator (replace radiator Dealer price 800$, my price 250$).
 
Before you changed out the Alternator did you check it to see if it was bad? If you just changed it to change it then that was a bad move. More so a waste of money.
 
You should verify how much load you are pulling off the battery. With the coolent leak you had maybe it dripped on to a electrical line and you are getting a short somewhere in your car which would cause all your electrical to go out.
 
What did the Transmission fluid look like. Did it have a burnt smell to it. Should be bright to dark red in color.
 
Considering it is a 95 and if you did damage your tranney. The blue book on this care is not more than 1800$. RIP.
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Re: 95 TRANNY PROBLEM... HELP PLEEAASSEE!!! [mastecutor] by ndeysayau95
Dec 31, 2008 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: mastecutor (Dec 31, 2008 8:42 am)

Thank you "mastecutor". Let me answer your questions... as for the altenator, on the DIC it was only reading 11.8 - 12.1 with no load if I turned anything on it went lower and just shut down so I had the altenator tested and sure enough it was no good. I had it replaced along with a new battery and it went back to 14.9 with a load, 15.1 without.
 The leak in the radiator seems to be coming from the very bottom of the radiator near the cock plugs (there are 2 on mine) I have checked the hoses and they all seem to be ok so Im in the process of finding a radiator.
 As fr the tranny fluid it doesn't have a burnt smell to it however, it is not bright nor dark red, it actually has a brown tint to it. I notice something new this morning, I tried what they call the idle relearn on it yesterday, and now there is tranny fluid underneath the car not a lot but it seems to have come out of the pan because it is almost rectangular in shape. I haven't driven her since the problem started.
 I'm leaning toward a diagnostic on the transmission ($50) and if it is blown then I have another option... a local wrecking yard has the exact same car color and all with a bad engine they want $550 I can buy it and swap engines and keep mine for parts or sell it all together.
Any input you give is greatly appreciated!! Oh yes, Im a female that tries to keep cost down... and I must add that I've had some really nice cars (Lexus, MBs,Cads) but this Aurora is the best and honestly Im going to hate letting go if it comes to that because no one will appreciate her as much.
Thanx
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Re: 95 TRANNY PROBLEM... HELP PLEEAASSEE!!! [ndeysayau95] by e_net_rider
Jan 02, 2009 (7:48 am)
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Replying to: ndeysayau95 (Dec 31, 2008 9:16 am)

brown tint is indication of clutch material. When the latest generation of fluids came out, part synthetic I believe, Ford and GM were recommending it as a replacement for some earlier vehicles. Until they found out it was causing the shedding of clutch material and then they quickly reversed their position. It is likely true of off the shelf fluids as well and unless you know for sure about a particular product it might be wise to stick with the original grade recommendation. Another fluid dump will be far cheaper and safer than the alternatives. Monkeys some times cause more damage and headache than anyone deserves. A major operations such as pulling engine and tranny to do the swap could yield damaged wiring or hoses, bent parts, cracked radiators, and the list is endless, so if you chose that route make sure everything is documented so you have recourse later.
Besides being clutch material from tranny it could be the convertor clutches. It is highly recommended that be changed at the same time as a tranny rebuild or replace.
You might luck out or not. If when you refilled the tranny there were air pockets fluid may have slugged a modulator valve or some other component, especially if you did not let it idle long enough in gear with wheels off ground to allow the transmission to clear all the bubbles and then slowly increase RPM enough to force shifts. The downside with this is that you should have the car supported at the strut so that you are not turning CV joints at the fully extended point.
Such a slugging could break a spring in a clutch pack, modulator valve, accumulator, etc. If it is in the modulator pack, it is accessible without pulling tranny from the bottom. I also suspect the end pan may be removeable if some parts are removed from the front of the engine (the belt end) and the engine/tranny assembly is slid to that end. Do check for clearance if trying and let me know if it works.
But also there is a known problem with a couple of solenoids in that lower valve assembly and there is a service upgrade for that. Typically they break and leak. Usually this leaves limp home mode which gives only first and second gear and reverse. The parts for that fix were around $100 and you can probably find where several have done the work themselves in one of the Aurora forums. Biggest headache seems that some have accidentally misplaced a small part so it is imperative that you use caution in disassembly and reassembly. Make sure you have a contained environment so that if some small part drops you can find it and check the area routinely for stray parts. Other than basic tools you should have a small torque wrench, which I consider basic anyway.
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Re: 95 TRANNY PROBLEM... HELP PLEEAASSEE!!! [ndeysayau95] by mastecutor
Jan 02, 2009 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: ndeysayau95 (Dec 31, 2008 9:16 am)

From the sound of it. Swaping the engine is not your problem. Your transmission is what you would need to replace if that is even the case. 550 for the tranney is one thing. Installing it will be another. That will be another 500 to 1000 dollars.
 
I agree the Aurora is an interesting car. But GM's are notoriously bad for electrical problems. That being said they are compounded when dealing with the Olds Aurora. The cost of fixing them can go through the roof.
 
Any one who says that the Aurora is an economical car to maintain is full of something or they work for GM(mind you not for long).
 
Brown by the way is not good if this is the color. I would question the person that put this oil in for you when you said you changed out your transmission fluid.
 
Happy trails.
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Re: 95 TRANNY PROBLEM... HELP PLEEAASSEE!!! [ndeysayau95] by mastecutor
Jan 02, 2009 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: ndeysayau95 (Dec 31, 2008 9:16 am)

ONe other thing. As the prior poster recommended. I would have the tranney oil changed out again by a trustworthy/knowlegeable person. Look for metal shavings as expressed by the prior poster. Also verify that the filter was put back into place.
 
Replacement fluid should be GM grade transmission fluid , nothing more and nothing less.
 
When you drain from the pan your only replacing 6-7 quarts of the fluid. You do not actually change out all of the tranney fluid when changing from the pan.
 
Verify your gasget at the pan to see that it is not cracked. you said you have it dripping around the pan. This is not a good sign. You could have been running the car with low transmission fluid levels. A new GM gasget for this car is 50-75$ unless you go with the cheap cork aftermarket gasget which I only reccommend if you plan on keeping the car for a couple years.
 
Draining and checking the tranney fluid is your cheapest route to take. If you go the alternate route of replacing the tranney (mind you if this is the problem) your cost will go up considerably.
 
Dallas Tx.
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Re: 1997 AURORA [jeff8789] by mastecutor
Jan 02, 2009 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: jeff8789 (Oct 16, 2008 4:45 pm)

I have seen this before. May be a differnt problem. If you lift the rubber housing right next to the steering column and the light blinker handle. pull this back. If you look inside there are contacters that the handle touches. Did you try squirting some contact cleaner into that area on the contacters and then turn your light switch back and forth to clean those areas up. Poof my lights started to work again.
 
in some instances those contacters become shorted and your lights will turn on even after the iginition has been shut off. Have seen many peoples batterys drained becasue of this same issue.
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Re: 95 TRANNY PROBLEM... HELP PLEEAASSEE!!! [mastecutor] by ndeysayau95
Jan 02, 2009 (12:34 pm)
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Replying to: mastecutor (Jan 02, 2009 9:56 am)

Thank you for your response! I have a question now about the tranny fluid since you say GM grade should be replacement nothing more & nothing less.... when the altenator was changed and I went to Kragen Auto Parts to get the Anti-freeze and Tranny fluid the gentleman gave me some tranny fluid that was labeled MD3... I told him the year make & model of my car and he said that would work. Ever heard of it?? I am use to putting Mecron/DexronIII in any vehicle Ive owned now I'm wondering if this is the cause of the problem... Wow, I would really hope not. You all are great here, your input truly helps and I definitely appreciate it.
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Re: 95 TRANNY PROBLEM... HELP PLEEAASSEE!!! [e_net_rider] by ndeysayau95
Jan 02, 2009 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: e_net_rider (Jan 02, 2009 7:48 am)

Thanx for the response, and all the information.... I am printing this out for my referrence. She is being towed to the Tranny shop for the diagnostic shortly (waiting for the tow guy now). I do not want to chance messing with it until I hear what they find. I forgot to mention previously that when I went to the autopart store to get the anti-freeze and the tranny fluid the gentleman gave me MD3... Ever heard of it? I told him the year make & model of my car and he said it would work. Im use to Mercron/Dexron III but took his word because he was the salesman. I hope this didn't lead to the problem.
As for the swap, Im thinking of just buying the other Aurora he wants $450 for it now. The guy says it needs a new engine, it has a bad rod knock. It only has 118k on it, and I believe it's well worth more than $450.
I will keep you posted on my tranny issue... Hope it's something simple.Thanks again for all your help!
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Re: 95 TRANNY PROBLEM... HELP PLEEAASSEE!!! [ndeysayau95] by mastecutor
Jan 05, 2009 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: ndeysayau95 (Jan 02, 2009 12:34 pm)

MD3 or mercon/dexron III are for most cars/light truck auto. transmissions built between 1980 and 2005. 2005 and newer GM's not so much.
 
Again, I would drain and verify that there are not shavings or metalics in your oil or attached to the magnetic strip just inside the pan. your best hope is that you had air pockets in the modulator
 
Good luck.
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Re: 95 TRANNY PROBLEM... HELP PLEEAASSEE!!! [mastecutor] by ndeysayau95
Jan 05, 2009 (1:59 pm)
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Replying to: mastecutor (Jan 05, 2009 10:27 am)

Thank you again! I will let you know hat becomes of it, hopefully it isn't a nightmare.

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