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Hyundai Sonata, Sedan
#8667 of 8898 Re: Sonata 2013 [benjaminh]
Dec 20, 2012 (3:20 am)
My suggestion as I've mentioned here on this forum. Never ask the sales rep for a price. You need to be in control. When you are armed with the information such as invoice price, hold back amount, current incentives, etc, you tell them what your price is. You can get all incentives without even mentioning it.
Never say how you arrived at your price. Factor the incentives into your quote. Currently there are about $2000 of Hyundai incentives.
Remember the margin is huge on Sonatas.
#8668 of 8898 Re: Sonata 2013 [michellej87]
Dec 20, 2012 (10:09 am)
I agree that there are other cars killing the Sonata (and for that matter the sister car too, the Optima!) I just gave up on my 2007 Sonata Limited V6 as right from just jut before 60k miles the ESC light was intermittently and then frequently lighting up on the dash. It was mostly on Moderately to very wet wintery weather and the occasional dry local commute situations too. By the time October 2012 came around I was at 75k miles on that car and figured enough is enough! Afterall, the dealers nearby were playing their shenningans with me over this issue. That being the case and all, I traded up for a far nicer 2012 Nissan Maxima with the Premium, Premium Tech, Cold Packages, External Underground Security Lighting, HIDs, Climate Controlled (Heated and Cooled) Driver's Seat, Heated Steering Wheel, Spoiler, etc. And yes, addons like Pinstriping, Nitrogen Tire Fill, Window Tints, Floor Mats and Wheel Locks were thrown in. There were pretty decent incentives going on at the time I bought ($4k from Nissan, $500 from NMAC and then over $5500 from Dealer). So in total just over $10k off. With the trade in of my Sonataa getting me around $9k (It had been in a minor rear-ender where I was hit by the other party), I walked out with the Maxima with a lien of about $27k-$28k after TT&L. Overall, the gas mileage at highway speeds for my particular driving conditions was moderately better in the Maxima over the Sonata I had. And who could go wrong with Bluetooth Audio Streaming on Bose with 9 Speakers including 2 Subwoofers? Bose over Dimension or Infinity Audio! All day!! Every day!!
#8669 of 8898 Re: Sonata 2013 [michellej87]
Dec 20, 2012 (10:11 am)
By the way, the Camry scored poorly in the 2012 and '13 models for overall safety. They showed a story on the News this morning on it. I was laughing all the way as I personally hate the Camry for being such a bland car. They even lowered hte horsepower rating on the ES350 to match the Camry's output, which is pretty sad. Toyota to me is just clueless!
#8670 of 8898 Re: Our deal from last week [michellej87]
Dec 20, 2012 (3:33 pm)
Michelle- our Sonata is Ruby Red with tan and black interior. No window tinting. Yes we financed about half and therefore qualified for $1500 holiday cash. Mike
#8671 of 8898 Re: Our deal from last week [mikec3644]
Dec 20, 2012 (6:49 pm)
Awesome choice. The red looked better on the showroom floor with the tint.
If you have any sun at all you should get the tint.
I liked the red myself but I want grey or black interiors.
Red GLS does not come with these interiors so I might have to choose another color.
Black or Pacific Pearl are my next choices.
Shimmering white looks good by itself especially today after dust storms muddied up every car here in Texas.
But the darker colors make teh chrome and fluid design of Sonata pop even more. They will be a pain to keep clean though.
I will go to dealer tomorrow or Saturday and make an offer.
I will stay strong and be ready to walk away.
Dec 20, 2012 (10:25 pm)
Hyundai provides great warranty:
- 10-YEAR/100,000-MILE POWERTRAIN PROTECTION
- 5-YEAR/60,000-MILE NEW VEHICLE LIMITED WARRANTY
- 7-YEAR/UNLIMITED MILE ANTI-PERFORATION WARRANTY
- 5-YEAR/UNLIMITED MILE 24-HOUR ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE
The following components are covered by Hyundai for time and mileage limits indicated:
• Radio and audio systems (i.e., radio, compact disc player, DVD player, navigation system, and Bluetooth®): 3 years/36,000 miles
• Paint: 3 years/36,000 miles
• Battery: 3 years/unlimited miles (100% covered 2 years/unlimited miles; after 2 years and within 3 years, 25% cost of battery and 100% labor cost covered)
• Air conditioner refrigerant charge: 1 year/unlimited miles
• Adjustments: 1 year/12,000 miles
• Wear items: 1 year/12,000 miles (e.g., belts, brake pads and linings, clutch linings, filters, wiper blades, bulbs, fuses)
The extended warranty from Warranty Direct is about $1100 for a plan ($100 ded per covered failure visit) called "10/100 PowerWrap Plus" that covers for 10 years/100,000 miles.
I generally don't buy extended warranty for electronics. What's the general opinion on Extended Warranty for new cars ? Is it worth paying for it ? It comes to about $110 per year.
Failure - refers to the Failure of a covered part under normal service. A covered part has failed when it can no longer perform the function for which it was designed solely due to its condition, and not due to the action or inaction of any non-covered parts. In addition, a Failure will be deemed to have occurred when a covered part has worn beyond the manufacturer’s tolerances allowed for the particular Vehicle at the mileage when the problem occurs.
PowerWrap Plus also provides coverage for the following listed specific parts:
Emission Systems: Air Fuel Ratio Sensor, Air Induction System, Air Pump, Anti-Knock Sensor, Barometric Pressure Sensor, Canister Purge Solenoid, Deceleration Valve, EGR Recirculation System, EGR/EFE Thermal Vacuum Switch, EGR/EFE Valve, Engine Oil Fill Cap, Fuel Fill Pipe and Cap, Fuel Fill Neck Restrictor, Fuel Receptacle, Fuel Sensor, Fuel Tank Pressure Control Valve (PCV), Fuel
Temperature Sensor, Idle Air Control Valve, Intake Air Resonator, Intake Air Temperature Sensor, Intake Manifold, Manifold Air Pressure (MAP) Sensor, Mass Air Flow Sensor, Oil/Air Separator, Oxygen Sensor, PCV System, Positive Crankcase Ventilation Valve, Powertrain Control Module (PCM), Secondary Air Injection System, Throttle Body Assembly (MFI).
OPTIONAL LUXURY COVERAGE: (must be purchased and indicated on the Application and the Identification Card)
GPS NAVIGATION SYSTEMS- Navigation display unit, navigation control module, navigation system wiring harness.
TV/VIDEO/ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEMS- LCD screen (10" or less), RF modulator, video cassette player with auxiliary inputs (No recording capability), digital video disc player, power converter.
PHONE SYSTEMS- Charger/cradle, microphone, speakers, phone.
INTERNET ACCESS SYSTEM- Power converter, satellite receiver, satellite dish or wireless receiver (Metropolitan areas only).
OPTIONAL AIRBAG ELECTRONICS COVERAGE: (must be purchased and indicated on the Application and the Identification Card)
AIRBAG ELECTRONICS – Airbag module, sensor(s), airbag cable/contact coil, clock spring, on/off switch.
Dec 20, 2012 (10:59 pm)
Had some good experience with the dealship in South Austin. The guy named Ilya, seems to be reasonable to was willing to go as far as he can to get me a deal. But seems the numbers does not still compell me to buy the Sonata. I am more interested in Altima, and numbers were my major motivating factor in going with Sonata. I really liked the drive feel of Sonata. but Altima is still good, and is a choice of the majority in the family.
In the end I may not buy the Sonata with the figures I have now. But just wanted to let you folks know of the good expeirence I had.
#8674 of 8898 Re: may not buy yet [mpillaius]
Dec 21, 2012 (10:04 am)
Just leased a 2013 Sonata GLS with Popular Package and carpeted floor mats in NJ:
MSRP: $22,595 (plus whatever sticker is for Popular pkg + $100 for floor mats)
Sign and Drive Lease 36/12k ($0.20/excess mile -- seems high but dealer stated this is the new standard for all makes)
$2000 rebates ($1500 + $500 competitive lease)
$220/month incl, all fees, taxes, registration, etc. -- no money down at all $0, zero, zilch
Paid $220 for 1st. month and walked out the door
What do you all think of that?
#8675 of 8898 Re: may not buy yet [dandydan9]
Dec 21, 2012 (9:40 am)
So for $7920.00- you got a brand new car for 3 years? Then if any of the 2016's are irrisistable you can dive in then.
Sounds better than buying.
(That is if the Mayans were wrong and today is NOT the end of the world as we know it)
#8676 of 8898 Re: may not buy yet [dandydan9]
Dec 21, 2012 (10:05 am)
That's pretty good, very close to what I got on Black Friday for a similar 2013 Sonata except mine had a few more options e.g. self-dimming rear view mirror with garage remote, two sets of mats, mud guards, bumper protector, cargo net. The stuff was already on the car and they didn't charge me extra for it. I paid $47.80/month for 35 months (they made the first payment for me), 12k a year, nothing up front. They valued my trade, a 2007 Sonata GLS with extensive body damage, at $6000 (I thought that was quite good). So add that to my payments and it comes out to about $213/month. Oh, they had a special that weekend that got me 3 years of no-charge wheel/tire/glass repairs and paintless dent removal for free. I figure that will save me quite a bit over the lease, as I've always managed to scuff 1-2 alloys on curbs and collect a few door dings--especially since the Sonata has no trim strips to protect the doors.