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James by sandman_6472
Aug 25, 2009 (12:54 pm)
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You are assuming alot in the post and comments like "8th grade behavior" doesn't help the situation...a bit condescending actually. Trust me on one thing, I bought a car from this King dealership and what happened doesn't surprise me in the least...they weren't the best dealership to work with. And there's nothing wrong with a verbal price from a salesman if both sides are on the same page. The car was probably posted at that price but once there was some interest shown, the price was raised. But a persons word has to stand for something and it's a shame this particular salesman was such a "weasel".
Again, I have bought a vehicle there and have some knowledge of this particular dealer location...do you? We're in here to try and be helpful...the condescending remarks are childish and uncalled for...a shame we all can't be as smart as you. Give the poor guy a break!
 
The Sandman
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Re: James [sandman_6472] by james1982
Aug 25, 2009 (2:14 pm)
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Replying to: sandman_6472 (Aug 25, 2009 12:54 pm)

Sandman:
 
I think I must have come off wrong in my previous post. Let me clear things up...
 
You are assuming alot in the post…
 
What am I “assuming”? I was merely responding to Bowfin47’s post. Did I assume too much?
 
…and comments like "8th grade behavior" doesn't help the situation...
 
I guess I can agree with you, sandman, it wasn’t very tactful on my part. I was merely pointing out to Bowfin47 that getting friends to call a dealership to catch them in a lie is counterproductive.
 
a bit condescending actually.
 
Eh, maybe. I highly doubt this guy will be back anyway. He’s a one-post-wonder.
 
Trust me on one thing, I bought a car from this King dealership and what happened doesn't surprise me in the least...they weren't the best dealership to work with.
 
As you can see from my original post, I didn’t call Bowfin47 a liar. Here’s what I wrote: “Having said that, I think what happened to you is terrible. At best it's due to a lack of communication at the dealership. At worst, it's shady - seller's remorse, like you said.” I think it totally sucks! If you had a similarly poor experience at this dealership, I sympathize with you too.
 
And there's nothing wrong with a verbal price from a salesman if both sides are on the same page.
 
I agree. But, it’s not a “contract” like Bowfin47 alluded to. I was informing him that, unless it can be unequivocally proven in court, “verbal contracts” mean nothing. Bowfin47 needs to know that.
 
The car was probably posted at that price but once there was some interest shown, the price was raised.
 
Again, I agree. I agreed with Bowfin47 in my original post – seller’s remorse.
 
But a persons word has to stand for something and it's a shame this particular salesman was such a "weasel".
 
You and I see eye-to-eye once again. I think what happened to Bowfin47 is incredibly dishonest.
 
Again, I have bought a vehicle there and have some knowledge of this particular dealer location...do you?
 
Nope. None. I can just comment on what you, and Bowfin47, tell me – which is why I haven’t disagreed with either of you regarding this dealership.
 
We're in here to try and be helpful...the condescending remarks are childish and uncalled for...
 
That’s a judgment call. All I said is that getting his friends to call the dealership is “very 8th grade”. Could I have phased that differently? Sure, and in hindsight I probably should have. I certainly don’t want to come off as a jerk.
 
Having said that, I was kind of annoyed that he made a post about a Santa Fe in the Sonata forum. I know, I know – you’re going to say that it’s about a dealership, and not specifically the car. Then, why did he post here, and only here. Why not in the Santa Fe forum as well?
 
a shame we all can't be as smart as you.
 
My dear sandman, there is more than one way to be “condescending”, as you say. One way is to name call – which you said I did. The other way, is to be passive aggressive. Your above comment is PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE, and not helpful. Please heed your own advice?
 
Give the poor guy a break!
 
I was trying to be helpful. I gave him some ideas (like beef up his negotiation skills, etc.)
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Re: James [james1982] by jfritsch
Aug 26, 2009 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: james1982 (Aug 25, 2009 2:14 pm)

I probably wouldn't have phrased it the same way, but going to a lot of trouble to prove "bait and switch" and similar tactics happen at dealerships is a lot like proving there is snow in Alaska. It is what it is since the Model T. Given that it has been going on in the car business for 100 years means that in the vast majority of verbal cases they have the attorney general angel covered.
 
Sorry- Our employees are idiots.... so hard to find good help these days don't you know.
 
Good luck
--jjf
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hyundai extended warranty by buck57
Aug 26, 2009 (1:03 pm)
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purchased a 2009 gls sonata last month. love the car but i am now contemplating buying the extended warranty from hyundai. i have heard horror stories about dealer markups on warranties for years, so does anyone have an idea what a fair price is?
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Re: hyundai extended warranty [buck57] by james1982
Aug 26, 2009 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: buck57 (Aug 26, 2009 1:03 pm)

Buck:
 
The standard Hyundai manufacturer warranties include...
 
- 10 year / 100,000mi Powertrain Warranty
- 5 year / 60,000mi New Vehicle Limited Warranty
- 7 year / Unlimited mi. Anti-perforation (rust) Warranty
- 5 Year / Unlimited mi. 24-hour Roadside Assistance
- 12 Month / 12,000mi Replacement Parts and Accessory Warranty
- 8 Year / 80,000mi Federal Emmission and Performance Warranty
- 7 Year / 70,000mi California Emmission Control System Warranty
 
All of those are standard. What more were you thinking about getting from the dealer? Personally, I don't think that a new Hyundai owner needs anything else.
 
Also, please be aware that if you get a DEALER warranty, it can be voided if you take it somewhere other than original dealer to be serviced. Please read the fine print.
 
For your reference, here is a link to an article on Edmunds about buying extended warranties. I hope this helps.
 
http://www.edmunds.com/advice/warranties/articles/139066/article.html
 
Please let us know what the dealer is asking for the warranty.
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Re: hyundai extended warranty [james1982] by backy
Aug 26, 2009 (3:50 pm)
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Replying to: james1982 (Aug 26, 2009 2:51 pm)

With the Hyundai extended warranty, you can get the bumper-to-bumper coverage extended to 10/100k plus it's transferable. I've never gone for it on a Hyundai, although now that my Elantra is past the 5-year mark I am hoping I'll be glad I took a pass on it. The warranty was around $1000 (got quotes on either side of that) a few years ago. Not low enough to make me bite.
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Re: hyundai extended warranty [james1982] by jfritsch
Aug 27, 2009 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: james1982 (Aug 26, 2009 2:51 pm)

Honda has some dealers selling their 8yr/120 kmi factory Hondacare warranty (so called bumper to bumper) online for about $900 on the Accord, with no deductable.
 
$1000 seems fairly pricey for a 5 yr extension of the already long Hyundai warranty, but as you said, they are a high markup item. By the time you figure on selling the car for something else or have it totalled during that extra time kinda negates it. $350 would be a reasonable figure for the Hyundai in my opinion, but extended warantees aren't really designed to be reasonable.
 
Good luck
--jjf
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Hyandai Sonata '09 GLS Inventory Out of Stock by schumia
Aug 27, 2009 (8:56 am)
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Guys,
 
 Enjoyed the forum and all the discussion on the Sonata sedan.
 
 I've been interested in purchasing a Sonata GLS, AUTO, I4 and have been reading the forum since the start of cash-for-clunkers 1 1/2 months ago. Like several who've voiced, the price since the start of the Clunker's program has increased the base price of a GLS by ~$1500 so I was going to wait 'til the end of Clunker this past Monday to proceed with my purchase.
 
 It turned out the Clunker program is so successful, that all 6 dealers I called around Boston area don't have any '09 GLS left in the lot, some may have 2-3 Limited '09 or SE models - none the kinds I want.
 
 I asked the dealers what's the difference between '10 and '09 GLS models, they all say there's is none, except the manufacturer rebate of $1000 vs. $3000 for '09 model. I'd like to know if this is the same case in your neighborhood, where after the cash-for-clunker program, there's no '09 GLS left in the lot? I guess at this point I have no choice but to purchase '10 models?
 
Jeff
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Re: Hyandai Sonata '09 GLS Inventory Out of Stock [schumia] by james1982
Aug 27, 2009 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: schumia (Aug 27, 2009 8:56 am)

Schumia:
 
Here, in Richmond, VA, there are plenty of '09 GLS models available. In fact, one local dealer had an ad in the paper yesterday stating they have over 90 in stock.
 
If I was in your position, I would wait. I'm sure some more '09s will show up. Remember, this is a buyer's market, and the longer you wait, the more power you have.
 
That's my two cents.
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Re: Hyandai Sonata '09 GLS Inventory Out of Stock [james1982] by backy
Aug 27, 2009 (5:33 pm)
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Replying to: james1982 (Aug 27, 2009 9:43 am)

If a dealer is out of stock on '09 Sonatas, they might not get any more. The 2010s are already out. It might be possible for a dealer to get some '09s from a dealer that is overstocked or goes out of business, but that won't be the general case.
 
Just wait a couple of months. Once the '09s are cleared out, the rebates on the 2010s will ratchet back up. If you want a really great deal on a 2010 Sonata, wait until the all-new 2011 Sonata is introduced in early 2010.

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